in other words, anne northup to get hired in any law school -- in order to get hired you have to push for a federal judge and you have to come with a brahman degree, therefore the only opponents within the category to be of people from elite schools. do you agree that is essentially the only front that is open to counter this trend? >> i think that's very well put. and the problem of bad ideas at harvard or yale, there being harvard or yale scholars. it isn't a matter of a few range 10 more ordinary law schools together you of some of balance out one harvard or other top 10 school. and ideas have consequences. we always find -- getting back to that same point which is one must have id is better qualified to best the other side ideas and debate. spreading money or, had a greater organization fair, you know, networking and third place are all helpful and all may help people who deserve to succeed from falling by the wayside, but nothing would substitute. >> christine from cei in the front row. >> hello. so, i'm wondering what you think, what your thoughts might be on whether some of the