someone like her or jackie kennedy purser veered and went on. -- persevered and went on. young guys could learn from that. host: from the detroit free press -- quaker town, pennsylvania is next, go ahead. they hung up. you can give us a call this morning. we are doing this for the first 40 minutes. journal@c-span.org is the e- mailed. asheville, north carolina, thank you for calling in. caller: thank you for having me. betty ford was probably the first most public figure to come out of breast cancer. it shocked many people back then. she opened up a conversation. she saved millions of women's lives. whole movement started and people got checked and found out. they found out that you don't die. if you get checked. she did that. host: was that the initial reaction, schock? caller: as a child, i was in my 20's, i was impressed. i was impressed that somebody of that stature would mention the word breast in a sentence and a candidate's wife that was running for reelection. this was unheard of. you don't talk about breasts. she did and because of her, thousands and hundreds of