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peter seligmann is one of the organization's founder and c.e.o., roger altman is the chairman of evercore partners, an investment banking company. he's a director on the board of conservation international. i am pleased to have both of them here to talk about where we are in order... in the battle to save our planet. peter, welcome. >> thank you. thank u, charlie >>ose: so what is at the top of your agenda and how do you plan to pursue it? >> top ofhe agea is really addressing how doou redesign economic develop some that it values national capit. we have right now 6.9 billion people on earth. we're gointo go to 9.2 billion in four cades, we that's a 33% increase ipopulation. >> rose: more demand for food; water, fl. >> huge. we're going to have two billion people entering the middle-class mainly from asia. we're going to increase fossil fuel consumption by 70%. we're going to double o demand for food. we're going to double our demand for water and our demand for energy and we got a planet that's facing i can tings crisis in terms of biodiversity and we've got fisheries, the fish we like t

should this event happen, and some of the names are somewhat familiar as far as their -- it's roger altman, the investment banker, former deputy treasury secretary. erskine bowles, bill daily the warehouse chief of staff currently also jacob lou and janet yellen, it all names that we have seen in various circles when it comes to economics. >> exactly. names we have heard over the last two decades when it comes to economic policy making and that is really just under scores how important this role is now and how you can't really have somebody come in who is fresh on the job. they need to have some understanding of the debates that have gone on, at least over the last three or four years relating to the financial crisis, a big job of the treasury secretary will be implementing the new financial regulation laws and also, just figuring out how to get this economy moving forward in a more susta sustainablend stronger direction. because it's not happening. >> time geithner says two roles, selling of the policy and crafting of the policy and he said at least one of his preferences was the crafting

i'm roger altman. it's my pleasure to introduceodc cass sunstein sunstein, who is e administrator of the office of information and regulatory affairs were much more widely known as oira. we appreciate him taking the time to be with us this morning his actually is a really important job. he is responsible for overseeing many of the new federal regulations which are promulgated and we honor that is a very large volume. in addition the past five months she has been overseeing a review of existing federal regulations with an eye towards looking for opportunity to improve the impact of regulations on competitiveness, on employment and growth, and you can see why we are happy to have him here today because the relationship between regulation and innovation is an obvious and very important one. oira is one of those very peculiar washington institutions. if you walk down the streets of washington, and you're walking down the street and say to someone there's cass sunstein, he runs oira people say that's really