i -- i know that they are -- last year, they did "fences" and i knee sam jackson is doing a play coming up and i did "cat on a hot tin roof" in london. so let's just -- let's just look at it that hopeful think is getting better. i'm just going to say that. put out there it is getting better. >> fingers crossed? >> yeah, more stories for people of color, whether that's on tv, film, broadway. >> tell me what it's like to be hollywood actress, i hear that's hard, i hear the jobs are few and far between, quality roles, what has your experience been like? >> yes, it is harder to be a black actor and a black actress because there respect as many roles out there for us and there is so much talent among us. but i feel like i've been really, really lucky or blessed, whatever you want to call it i feel like i've got ton play some really amazing roles. >> one of the things i've always appreciated about you, every role do you is different, not like a typecast sort of role, they all have dignity, all interesting, creative. >> i want to play some characters without dignity, too. >> do you? >> why not

jackson, and the other is anonymous. he was a fugitive when he wrote and still writing when his story was published. the last three although samhad an edge to him, but the other two, jacob and herbie were post narratives because i wouldn't say they had good things to say about slavery, but they spoke about a lot of love they experiencedded in their lives as -- experienced in their lives as slaves. one of no stall jibing at moments and that's hard, troubling, and fascinating to understand why he would articulate his life story in such a way. i hope readers come through that south carolina slavery across the state was different from each individual and these are voices of people who wanted to be read. these are not general interviews, but people who wrote their story and wanted it out in the way they framed them. it's beautiful and troubling and frightening in some ways some of them, but i think they all speak to a new way we can learn to listen to the stories perhaps. >> thank you very much. >> sure thing. >> hear this week's nonfiction best sellers according to amazon.com.