carol swain is a professor of political science and law. her to talk to her about her new book. >> sean: joining us dr. carol swain. good to see you. >> great to be here. >> great honor to blush the book for you. i read the book. i didn't know you were a teenaged mother? >> yes. >> sean: and a high school drop-out. >> yes. >> sean: i didn't know any of these things. >> by the grace of god. >> sean: now you are a big professor. great story. you never viewed yourself as being disadvantaged because of race or sex or social class. >> no, actually i was in graduate school before i realized that i was oppressed and that someone from my background wasn't supposed to be able to do any of the things that i accomplished. i learned it in graduate school. as a black woman born in poverty. when i look back at it now i don't know if i would have attempted the things that i did if i had known that all the odds were me. for whatever reason it was if i had blinders on, i want aware that i was so disadvantaged. >> sean: is it because of your experience you w

my last name is swain. >> 37-year-old bernard "tasha" swain was serving a nine-month sentence for a paroleiolation. >> how do you make money on the streets? >> prostitution and selling drugs. >> one of the other things that bernard did on occasion inside l.a. county jail is to put on beauty pageants. like a peacock, so he wanted to show off his feathers. >> you know the miss america pageant? we do them in here but we do them for the boys and we have for girls and boys, the school boys. the vogue and all that kind of stuff like that. it's a variety of things you can run for. it's not just beauty. we cut up sheets and towels and make little dresses and you know. we destroy state property to make the outfits. >> do you make them look better? >> yes, actually. look at my face. >> we explored another special housing unit at l.a. county as well. the mental health ward where we encountered one of the most unforgettable scenes ever shown on "lockup." >> there was one gentleman in particular who i could barely see him because there was so much graffiti all over his cell door. and all over his walls

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supposed to be upholding the separation of church and state your offer to take on this issue is dr carol swain conservative commentator and author of be the people of color to reclaim america's faith and promise when welcome back thank you good to see you again. i'm a christian i believe in separation of church and state and have a lot of educational value and i think the the worst thing that would happen that could happen to this country is for any religion to take over the government you know someday they may come after me. why why should we be tolerating a political figure who is saying that is religion is now he's using his political platform to promote his personal religion tom this country was founded on judeo christian principles it was founded as a christian nation it is true definitely true and i did time as your son through the new testament and all the mirrors on top of my thomas is still not. jefferson he was one person why he was that he was the d.s. and i'm here most of the other founders wide open george washington i'll use the other him up until nine hundred sixty two we had bi

mastermind behind the worst peacetime massacre in norway's history is to appear in court to swain why he carried out a twin terror attack that claimed over ninety lives after sparing greg has admitted responsibility saying his actions were not a crime but call for change. germany makes a want to turn in a stance on a nato intervention in libya and approves a hundred million euro loan to the rebels they have to get off the campus also in line for a multi-billion dollar cash injection from the international community even when the handle or the levy and leader is frozen assets. so they had lies that is your little league sports. thanks mary now welcome to this foursome david there are the headlines this hour why defeat paraguayan because on erica grand finale to secure a record fifteenth title on something evening. russian champions a neat move to be in full winds of leaders says khalidi want to win that one something highlights. twice from rocky believe owns makes history by becoming the first man from the southern hemisphere to win the two prongs. and also mclaren's lewis hamilton by