hasan works there. the owner said a man with a sawed-off shotgun came in and robbed the shop and demanded that hasan get in car and leave with him. he said it was a moment he will never forget. he did not want to show his face on camera. >> i can't identify him. i can't if i see him again. i have don't know what his purpose is. he robbed us. ive been a barber 20 years and never been robbed. >> they took off in the barbershop owner suv, similar to this one that you are looking at. police recovered the war but they have not found the suspect who they say they consider armed and dangerous. live in antioch, amy hollyfield, abc7 news. >> all right, amy. thank you so much. >>> 6:02. it's the senate turn to vote on the measure to raise the nation's debt ceiling before the midnight deadline. after months of wrangling, the bill to avoid potential default almost cleared capitol hill. reporter emily schmidt is in washington with a look at what has to be done today to make this a done deal. >> this is the sound of

hasan's boss would like to know. he was the one who was robbed and then saw hasan kidnapped at gunpoint. he said he would really like to talk to them. he is scared to show his face on tv. >> i haven't heard from him. i'm shocked he hasn't called me, because he has my cell number. something this serious i'm sure he would have called me by now or at least his mother. i have a good repertoire with her. she hasn't called. i've been in contact with some of the distant cousins. the cousins as well have not been in contact with his mother. so this is all kind of shocking. >> yesterday a man with a sawed off shotgun went in the barbara shop where -- barbershop where hasan works and robbed the owner and grabbed the keys to the owner's car and grabbed hasan and they left in the car. police issued amber alert and they have canceled that now, of course. they haven't found the armed man and they say they don't know who he is. now the investigation shifted a bit. they're now questioning whether the 16-year-old was a victim. or whe

hasan's boss would like to know. he was the one who was robbed and then saw hasan kidnapped at gunpoint. he said he would really like to talk to them. he is scared to show his face on tv. >> i haven't heard from him. i'm shocked he hasn't called me, because he has my cell number. something this serious i'm sure he would have called me by now or at least his mother. i have a good repertoire with her. she hasn't called. i've been in contact with some of the distant cousins. the cousins as well have not been in contact with his mother. so this is all kind of shocking. >> yesterday a man with a sawed off shotgun went in the barbara shop where -- barbershop where hasan works and robbed the owner and grabbed the keys to the owner's car and grabbed hasan and they left in the car. police issued amber alert and they have canceled that now, of course. they haven't found the armed man and they say they don't know who he is. now the investigation shifted a bit. they're now questioning whether the 16-year-old was a victim. or whe

hasan works at the barbershop. the owner said a man with a sawed-off shotgun robbed the shop and demanded that hasan get in the car and leave with him. he said it's a moment he will never forget. he didn't want to show his face on camera. >> i can't identify him. if i see him again, i don't know who he was. i don't know what his purpose was in doing what he did. he robbed us. i don't know. i have been a barber 20 years, 20-plus years and i've never been robbed. >> and the kidnapper demanded the keys to the barbershop owner's suv. similar to this one. so he and hasan took off in the car. police have recovered the vehicle. they haven't found the suspect, though. they say he is to be considered armed and dangerous. live in antioch, amy hollyfield, abc7 news. >> all right, amy. thanks very much. >>> it's the senate's turn today to vote on the measure to raise the nation's debt ceiling before the midnight deadline. after months of wrangling, the bill to avoid potential default has almost cleared capitol hill. reporter e

the 16-year-old hasan works at barbershop. the owner said he was ordered to the ground. he told us what happened next but he did not want to be identified on television. >> at that point, when he figured out which key was mine after i told him which vehicle was mine, he got up, and he was leaving. and at that point, hasan was coming in from the errand he was running for me at the store and he encountered the assailant. he told him to get in the car, start it up. if you do anything wrong, i'll shoot al. >> reporter: police say he is armed and dangerous. there are still a lot of questions about what happened to hasan or how police can say they think he is safe when they haven't seen him. stay with us. the story is still developing. live in antioch, amy hollyfield, abc7 news. >> all right, amy. thanks very much. we're now less than 24 hours before the nation's debt exceeds what it can borrow. the senate is expected to pass legislation today to raise the debt limit. president obama says he will sign that bill. yesterday, the house passed the plan, the bill was magnified by t

> the barber says the kidnapper forced hasan to drive away at gun point.r clue autos this is national night out. this evening, neighbors get together and oakland will be host to 559 parties that is where he we find ses seala vega tonight. >> that is actually i regard number of parties for oakland. that is amazing considering this is only seven years ago there were just 39 national night out parties now there are hundreds taking place this, is a citywide party. a city that could sure use a diverse. >> this is not just here, but everywhere in oakland. we need people to get out and be more friendly. and with mind full everybody in east oakland is not who they hear about on the news. >> and this city murder rate is on the rise and a violent start to the week left four people dead in less than 72 hours, residents say national night out could not have come at a better time. and organizers say the recent spike could with why a report number of national night out parties are taking place this year. >> there are people holding parties and there is a lower crime rat

his friend 16-year-old hasan ford was kidnapped by the robber triggering an amber alert. the suspect fled in holmes suv. later police cancelled the alert when they learned ford had been let go. holmes says ford and his mother came into the barber shop, spoke to holmes and explained to him what happened. holmes says the conversation was very brief and the two left shortly thereafter. holmes says he asked hasan ford directly if he had anything to do with the robbery. >> are you involved in this and he said no. he said that guy robbed me like he robbed you. and i said so where did he take you. he said he took me on lone tree, he said to get out of the car and if i turned around or looked around he would shoot me in the back. >> reporter: he worries ford was put up to no good and he might not be telling him the truth. >> i want to believe he's not a victim but i'm really unsure right now. >> reporter: police say they are not sure what relationship if any ford had with the kidnapper. >> the relationship may have been victim and criminal or more than that, we're not sure at thi

play a role in this but he does have some questions because there was a point when hasan walked by theobber, but he says that he did get a chance to see his face during the robbery and it was fearful, but he still says that he wants to hear from hasan. >> the san francisco police are searching for a robber that they say poses as an fbi agent, they say the imposter punched and robbed a man in the bayview yesterday near third street and newcomb ave. they said that the suspect approached the victim identified himself all as a federal agent and when the victim pulls out his wallet, and the robber hit him in the chest and stole his money. the family of two bay area hikers detained in i rock hold out hope for their loved ones. shane adams and josh vital were wrested back in july of 2009, they said the three of them were caught walking along the i reckon i ron border. they were charged for spying, shored was released last year on bail. a verdict in the case is expected this week. >> a live look outside over downtown san francisco, the fog is cleared back off the coastline. that is good for an

police arrested hasan yesterday after they say the boy confessed to helping 2-year-old eric walker -- 23-year-old eric walker pull it off. >> one of the key areas that the juvenile was involved in was providing information to mr. walker about when the owner would have money, places he would store the money, secreted in the vehicle in the barber shop. >> i was hurt knowing that someone i really cared about could stab me in the back like he d. then i thought to myself, well, there has to be a reason for him doing it. was he put up to it? >> reporter: though hurt, holmes says he won't abandon the teenager. a boy who's had a rough life and little guidance. he says the young man wrote him a letter saying he's sorry. >> he's very remorseful for what he's done. and he's realized his mistakes. i want him to know that i love him, i care for him still. i forgive him for everything that he's done. and he needs to think about his life and think about his future. and now start making the right choices. >> reporter: now holmes isn't the only one feeling the sting. of course this incident set off a

abc's lama hasan joins us live from london. lama, what is the latest? >> reporter: good morning, tanya. yes, remarkable scenes, in fact, extraordinary scenes. there have been serious developments overnight. not only is it spreading across london but two other major cities, the first time since it broke out over the weekend here. and, of course, this comes after a third consecutive night of violence in london and yousee ie see it in the images. the images are just apocalypti, the buildings on fire. fires burning out of control. firefighters struggling to contain those fires just to give you an idea. last night was one of the busiest nights for firefighters receiving more than 2,000 phone calls so even when they get to the scene it's very difficult to get close to the buildings because it's simply too dangerous and yesterday we were at one of the areas in london where the riots broke out saturday and one thing we did hear the police were too late on the scene. they have been overwhelmed by the marauding masked men on the streets trying to break into these

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abc's lama hasan is in london tonight. >> reporter: this nation is rioters. with anger at the the youth behind this mindless mayhem. some of them as young as 11, 12 years old. suddenly, everywhere you look, police hitting back hard, determined to punish them. among the looters, as many as 200 in some neighborhoods. there were two teenage girls drinking wine stolen from a store. they didn't want their faces on tv. their words offer a window into why they took part. >>>>hat's what it's all about. showing the police we can do what we want. and now we have. we're just showing the rich people w wcan do what we want. >> reporter: another teen looter? >> why miss the opportunity to get this free stuff. i'll keep doing it every day until i get caught. >> reporter: today, we met 21-year-old jamel. who told us the anger has been simmering. the young see no promise in their lives. what do you think is the problem? >> there ain't enough opportunities for people out re. people just like a dead end. people's lives are like a dead end. >> reporter: do you think it's right?

the officer kimberly munley says her gun jammed and major hasan shot her three times. the president honored her as one of the top cops at the white house last year. tell the statesman newspaper they will replace the two civilian officers with military police. they say more military officers are now available with the wars in iraq and afghanistan seeming to be winding down need your help to try to catch three siblings suspected at shooting at police and robbing a bank in georgia. latest details and the chilling text message they sent their own mother next. plus, jurors warren jeffs reportedly wiping away tears after prosecutors played graphic audiotapes of jeffs with girls under 15 years old. the details on that ahead as well. it's how our rough ideas become "you did that yourself?" so when we can save more on the projects that let us fix, make, and do more... that just makes the stories even better. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now get this vanity and matching mirror for just $99. and all we need to do is change the way we're think

abc's lama hasan has the latest from london. lama, good morning. >> the chief prosecutor said the two american hikers josh fattal and shane bauer have been sentenced for eight years in prison, five years for allegedly spying for the united states and three years for illegally entering iran. the two were arrested by iranian security forces in 2009 along with their f fend, sarah shourd, who was also with them when they crossed an unmarked border between iran and iraq. they all maintain their innocence and said they made a mistake and unwillingly strayed across the border. last september shourd was released on health grounds and on bail of $500,000. there is one glimmer of hope for fattal and bauer. in the past, iraq has sentenced foreigners and later reduced that sentence before finally freeing them. in the meantime, their lawyer said they will repeal their sentences and have 20 days to do so.. ron. >> lama hasan, thanks very much. >>> and another violent incident in the parking lot of a sporting event. two men for shot, one of th

and i'm hoping to speak with hasan. i'd like know what he remembers about the description of the guy. >> police found the stolen suv and are searching for evidence. >> investigators say a shooting in san leandro wounding a man may be tied to a marijuana grow. sheriff deputies responded to reports this morning about 5:00 a.m. and later pulled it over. and inside were four men, and police say now, the four men from oakland showed up at a home with a marijuana grow in the backyard and took off when someone fired at them. the man shot is expected to survive. so far, police have not made any arrests. >> and city as cross the nation will be celebrating something called national night out tonight z in oakland. and there is going to be a record number of parties this year. and that is 100 arrests. and and those getting involved this year says it makes a difference when you know your neighbors. >> throughout east oakland you need people to get out to be more friendly and everybody in east oak slnd not that person they hear about

. >> major nadal hasan was charged with acting alone and wounding more than 30 others at ft. hood.e focus of the alleged lone wolf, but a plot was thwarted in july. the anniversary of september 11 is on the radar for law enforcement, particularly in new york. rayicly is the city's police commissioner far. >> how do you protect the city? >> we have a nexus program where we visit thousands of commercial establishmen establishments. getting color that may make a bomb. something along those lines. >> new york is on constant guard against terrorism working with federal agencies, kelly said law enforcement continues to check the channels they always checked since september 11 and has police officers overseas also gathering intelligence. >> we are doing everything we can to protect new york, but no guarantees. >> the big challenge is that someone is acting on their own and not communicating with others making it harder to detect thoughts and one more reason they are stressing the importance of getting help from the public to report suspicious activity. >> thanks for the good report. let's

. >> reporter: architect and prominent social researcher arif hasan says divisiveness set in the late 1970s. that's when pakistan's military ruler introduced strict islamic conservatism. it intensified as pakistan, with u.s. support, closely allied with the afghan mujahadeen fighting the soviet occupation >> it was from this city that that war was fought, supplies, >> reporter: today the rival political parties are largely ethnic, and there's little consensus on how to share power to govern a divided city. frequently, one faction or the other will call a strike- declaring its own curfew to shut down the city. these turf battles have exacted a huge toll on the economy, says hasan. >> every time we strike or the city closes down, apart from the at least half a million households don't have any earnings on that day because they are day wage earners. >> reporter: amid the deadly chaos, one of the loudest voices appealing for calm has been that of an energetic 84-year-old named abdul sattar edhi. i've been asking people one question: we've been muslims for 1,400 years. why don't we become

hasan ford turned up safe about midnight last night nearly eight hours after it appeared that he was kidnapped during an armed robbery of the barber shop where he works. but a neighbor says she saw him shortly after he was allegedly abducted. ford has still not talked to police. the robbery suspect is still missing. >>> the man who started a fire last october in a sacramento mall will spend 15 years in federal prison. a judge sentenced alexander pijay today. in court the judge said the fire may have been a cry for help but it was a wrong cry for help. caused more than $55 million in damage. >>> the woman suspected of burglarizing jeopardy, host alex trebeck could face 25 years to life in prison. she has two burglary convictions on her record. if convicted she faces a harsher sentence under the three strikes law. she says she is innocent of sneaking in and burglarizing his week. >>> a knight in shining yellow armor. a san francisco cab driver springs into action after a woman gets mugged. mark sayre with the heroic deed from a crime caught on camera. >> reporter: the cab security vide

they thought hasan ford was kidnapped at a barbershop where he worked. but, now, they believe ford was actually an accomplice. he faces robbery, carjacking, fire arm charges, that suspected robber you see there has also been charged, eric walker. >>> in san francisco a rescue 16 storeys up. two window washers dangled from their safety harnesses outside this high-rise condo complex in mission bay after the ropes on one side of the scaffolding gave way. rescuers shifted one window washer on to the roof, he was hospitalised with serious injuries, rescuers pulled the second worker through a window, he wasn't hurt as badly. cal o.s.h.a. is looking into with to what happened. >> now an update into one of the greatest mysteries of the 70s, d.b. cooper jumped out of a plane and was never seen again. 40 years later this is warming up. an oklahoma woman has come forward claiming to be cooper's niese. the san francisco connection to the only unsolved sky jacking in maryland. >> i was flying back from seattle to portland. >> reporter: he tells his story the first ti

antioch police initially thought 16-year-old hasan was kidnapped during an armed robbery monday, but now police believe he was an accomplice. ford faces robbery and firearm charges. both suspects are set to be in court tomorrow. >>> friends and family are asking for your help finding this man. 29-year-old maurice james ii was last seen on sunday. police say he was wearing a red t-shirt and black leather pants. his wallet and cell phone were left at home. police say james was thought to be depressed and was heading to the beach. >>> now to an update on one of the greatest mysteries of the 1970s. cooper jumped out of a plane and never seen again. this cold case is warming up. an oklahoma woman came forward claiming to be cooper's niece. one bay area man's connection to one man. >> i was flying back from portland to seattle. >> jack tells his story publicly for the first time. he was on the airplane on november 24, 1971 and found himself alone with cooper in the back of a plane while he circled seattle. >> i said we were up here so long, if we waited any longer, we could have thanksgivi

. >> arif hasan, a prominent architect and historian, says the divisiveness first came under pakistan's military ruler in the late seventies and eighties. zia ul-haq also introduced a strict religious conservatism, which intensified as pakistan, with u.s. support closely allied with the afghan mujahadine fighting the soviet occupation. >> and it was from this city that that war was fought, supplies, training, ideological training, the heroin trade that financed that war to a great extent, it all took place from here. today, if you look the city, the supplies to the nato troops all go through the city. because they go through the city almost everyone has an interest in the city. the americans have an interest. the pakistani intelligence agencies have an interest. the taliban are here, the afghan intelligence agencies are here. they all have a presence. >> not present is any consensus on how to govern among the political parties, which are largely drawn ethnic lines, competing for turf in convulsions of violence that have taken a huge toll. >> every time you strike or the city closes down

the victim is hasan ford, he is african american, 110 pounds, last seen wearing black jeans, a red coateball hat. now, the man who took him is

abc's lama hasan is right there on the scene. lama. >> reporter: good evening, george. i'm on a london street where just yesterday violence was breaking out. and police officers, like these behind me, tell me they are fanning out across the city, thousands of them. they say they are now ready for a fight. late today, wearing masks, brazenly in broad daylight, the rioters went to work. reports they struck a police station, setting it on fire. thankfully, no one injured. smoke billowed from a burnt-out car and from a nearby building, a tense standoff between the riot police and the looters. 16,000 police officers are flooding the streets. triple the usual number. and in an unprecedented move for a department that works without guns or riot control hoses, the police are considering firing plastic bullets on the crowds. desperate residents asking what has taken them so long. >> where is the police? the police station is up there. will they be there to protect us tonight? they weren't here to protect us last night. >> reporter: under fire, prime minister david cameron, who n

syria adding to the international condemnation of the crackdown on protesters let's go to patrick hasan from the online political magazine spiked in london he told me push charlotte south is apparently at a loss as to how to deal with the situation. assad is serious about promising democracy and sweeping constitutional reforms they had promised thank lumping down on freedom of speech and freedom of expression which is the cornerstone of any democracy is not sending out a message to the syrian people that he can be taken seriously or trusted in his promise is a tool there is a sense from assad's really the ease by which he started to say this is the end of the single party rule and he will start to think about elections and the way in which he previously portrayed himself and his party as the only guarantee karan taus of the syrian stability but is now talking about major constitutional reforms means that really there's a real uncertainty about what he's trying to do there very isolated they don't really know where they're going they don't know what's really the position of the u.s. is o

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lama hasan, abc news, london. >> seems like london has had a quieter night. a difference. >> quite a crackdown. plus the evolution of this thing kind of intrigues me. first of all, a police shooting involving a young african-american male. then people kind of starting to get on the economy, tough times. now it seems it's a magnet for anyone who wants to cause a little bit of mayhem. >> there are reports that looters were actually organizing on facebook and other social sites. >> to take advantage of the lawlessness. >> let's meet at this time and see what we can get away with. my goodness. >> scary times. >>> the grandparents of caylee anthony have just observed what would have been her 6th birthday. geor and cindy anthony gathered with more than 100 people for a memorial. it took place near the wooded area in orlando where caylee's remains were found three years ago. they released balloons in their granddaughter's memory. casey anthony was not there and her whereabouts remain a mystery. >>> in our news now, aruba is once again the focus of a high-profile mis

abc's lama hasan is following developments there. this at a time when she has the very latest. lama, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, josh. these are the worst clashes people have seen in decades. and today, police are bracing themselves for even more violence. there were more clashes this morning as police tried to contain the riots. london has been turned into a battlefield, with groups of young men attacking police officers throughout the weekend. they threw petrol bombs and missiles, burning this double-decker bus, vandalizing and looting shops and setting buildings on fire and grabbing anything they can get their hands on. firefighters had to put out 49 fires in this area alone. >> this level of violence, escalated beyond all proportions. what was a peaceful vigil by a grieving family was hijacked by mindless, criminal thugs. >> reporter: the clashes broke out on saturday night, after a peaceful protest, by people demanding answers after a man was shot to death last week, quickly turned into this. the police were brought in to try to contain the violence and

abc's lama hasan reports on how the rioting started. >> reporter: flames across london.tting the city, torching buildings, cars ablaze. from the air the fires raged. the violence broke out after a 29-year-old father of four was killed by police. the police say he allegedly fired the first shot. but in a poor neighborhood where relations with police have long been strained, sadness quickly erupted into a fiery violence. this used to be a landmark building and one that survived world war ii. but not these recent riots. over here you can see the extent of the damage. a burnt-out police car, the remnants of it here. the tense heat blew out the windows, just over my shoulder. making matters worse, the youth, angered over a lack of jobs and the deep cuts by the government in social programs, as england tries to rein in its budget. and that frustration and those fires are spreading. lama hasan, abc news, london >> and there's speculation that social media is perhaps contributing to at least spread of this, where people are talking on twitter and facebook and elsewhere. >> organ

lama hasan ♪ ♪ >> eric: made up a new dance. welcome back to "the five."d whether wealthy americans should pay higher taxes we thought it would be fun to hear from matt damon. take a listen. >> it's criminal. so it will is asked of people get something much. i don't mind paying more. i don't mind paying more taxes. greatest country in the world. that much wealth you can pay more in taxes. give me a break. look at what you get for it. you get to be american. >> eric: both of the beautiful women -- sit down. both of the beautiful women on the panel want to weigh in on matt damon. >> kimberly: i was a matt damon fan. i loved his movie but i'm not in love with the comments. he is patriotic. his politics are different. it had a dream about matt damon the other night. he disappointed me then. i wanted him to save me and all he did was hand me the knife. >> bob: i'm sure that's exactly what you wanted. >> andrea: they shaved his hair off and took his brain with it. it's true. >> greg: i can't believe i'm defending him but they asked him the question. it wasn't li

but what they do have is the ability to incite major hasan at fort hood or the times square bomber.re is an ability to really incite violence in someone who is so inclined and with -- if you were on those jihadist web sites and you're reading their propaganda every day and they're exhorting, you know, muslims and muslim americans to rise up, you never can tell. you get one loose nut in the bushel there, and they can cause a lot of damage. i think that letterman and other similarly targeted should beware. >> they never make a mystery of who they are and what they intend to do. so when the enemy tells you who they are and what they're about, believe them because they're not pulling your leg. let's switch gears and talk about the situation in aruba. we have another missing american woman for about two weeks now. she goes down to aruba with a guy she met on match.com. she's got some kind of boyfriend stateside. but now we find out that this guy took out a $1.5 million accidental death insurance policy on her which two days after he reported her missing, he tried to claim. >> the boyfrie

but then, amazingly, the pilot hasan kahn and reporter andrew torres managed to climb out of the wreckagepilot russ mowry, however, is stuck inside, and the engine is still running with 80 gallons of fuel on board, threatening to ignite. police officers arrive within minutes. they were already on the scene responding to the earlier shooting that the helicopter originally was sent to cover. >> he was telling us, pull the red levers, pull the red levers. >> to stop the engine. >> to stop the engine, yes. >> rescuers pulled out the pilot out of the wreckage and shut off the engine. the three men are taken to the hospital. all survive the incredible crash. the fuselage around their seats protecting them like a cocoon. their unbelievable survival becomes a national story, and pilot russ mowry is interviewed on the "today" show. >> my last thought was i wanted to get away from the street, wanted to hit a rooftop, get on the rooftop level. i saw that -- what i thought was a white chimney. i said, if i can hit that chimney and stop, that will arrest my forward motion. i'll stop when i hit the chi

lama hasan has more from london. good morning, lama. >> reporter: good morning, bianna.ant to be the trip of a lifetime, an exciting adventure, to see the most dangerous of species on the planet, the polar bears that roam the wild in the arctic circle, quickly turned into a nightmare. 17-year-old horatio chapple was killed on friday morning when a polar bear braced a trip wire around the campsite for security. the alarm did not sound. and the five-week expedition came to a tragic end. >> horatio was a fine, young man. >> reporter: the group of 16 to 20-year-olds had been camping, in norway, svalbard, heavily populated with the world's biggest land carnivore. the group had been given training to deal with an attack. >> we had a trip wire around the camp. there were wires along it. if a polar bear or another animal trips i io it, there's a shock that goes around. >> reporter: but this group was unlucky. the 560-pound bear rampaged through the site, hunting for food, where 13 young adventurers had been sleeping. four others were mauled by the bear and seriously injured. the

, i put in nexus, hasan and fort hood. found seven art cycles of "the new york times." only one used word muslim one year after the shooting after the cat was out of the bag. >> host: from how to talk to a liberal if you must. here is a traitor. you write during my recent book tour, this is from 2003, during my recent book tour i resisted persistent, illiterate request that i name traitors. with a great deal of charity and suspension of disbelief i was willing to concede many liberals were merely famous idiots. in addition i was loathe to name names. >> guest: fatous. >> host: i'm sorry? >> guest: fatous. >> host: you're right. what did i i say? >> guest: famous. >> host: fame mouse i'm sorry. i need to put glasses on. liberals would start jumping out of the windows but after the "times" despicable editorial on the two-year anniversary 9/11 attack, i'm able to name a traitor, pinch salzberger publisher of "new york times." don, from --. >> guest: can i say why? >> host: certainly. >> guest: i have not read the book recentl

i think if you look at nidal hasan, he didn't become radical overnight. if you look at his resume it's similar to my. but yet something happened in him over years, over years. you just can't blame a lot. alike in celebratory came to radicalize her was being radicalized somewhere. he was giving sermons and moss in denver and sang -- when you talk to certain leaders of the muslim to me they said all of a sudden we don't know what happened. he became violent. that's not the way it works. pathology creates up over time and there is just as we've seen in alcoholism there is enablers. and the enabling that's been happening in some of, not all, even the majority has been, i think, significantly causing a progression of this problem and that's why we're not treating it and getting better. >> if you could try to close in about 30 seconds please. >> yes, sir ultimately we need solutions. our creation has created a project that looks at and not doing muslims with the ideas of liberty, giving them the empowerment to counter a mom, to make -- we have a retreat coming

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nidal hasan at fort hood fits into that category. 9/11 is different.y admitted they did not have any evidence against osama bin laden. if they did, he would have been tried in absentia. i think everyone has problems with how his body was disposed of and how little we were shown about it. there were three collapsed buildings on 9/11. building seven went down at free-fall acceleration. i am and mechanical engineer. that can only happen with all of the structural support removed from the building. the building was enormous. it was 75% of the area of the empire state building. that has not been explained. they admit to the freefall but do not give in to the implications. host: what about that point? we have heard this before. guest: the caller is making the point that this was a horrific attack on 9/11. it does seem hard to believe how much damage was inflicted. bear in mind that when you look at this report from the obama administration, it addresses the myths about terrorists. one of them is that they are an educated. one of the leaders was in engineer.

how do we treat the nidal hasans of the world when they won't cite his theoretical slipdown and how can i help my children to resurrect their faith of rad indication if we can't to talk about it. >> i think we can talk about it and we talk about it in terms of the religion we don't have to single it out but we can have a honest dialog about race and religious if we talk about the fact that it's not just the muslim religion or the islamic religion that we're targeting. it's a broad spectrum. >> 220 arrests of terror cases in the last two years, 180 plus were muslims. so you're going to waste all this time discussing all the other faiths which i can't help you with while we have a muslim problem that i can help you with, not for those muslims that's a meyer and we're he have going to waste all those religions because of political correctness. >> every terror plot is important and every life that is loss is important. i would not consider it a waste of time to talk about extremism in any form or fashion because they take lives and we can talk about and i won't go through the incidents but

my name is mohammed hasan. i am cochair of the intra-academy finals and the academy of science worldwide. i was also former executive director for the developing world and i just want to bring in the voice of the scientific ecological community and development which has been so far quite absent from the discussion. and we all know and understand without proper resentment in science, technology and education there would be no sustainable growth and i think this is one of the key problems facing the poor countries especially africa. proper investment in education especially quality education in science and technology. and i was by the way, for instance, kaberuka in lisbon in the annual meeting of the african development group and i was very delighted for the first time the african republican group is having a strategy dealing with high education, science and technology investment in africa. and my question is, can you highlight some of the key issues in the strategy and how the african development bank is helping

between the fbi and the army, we also found that the army had sufficient evidence on its own of major hasan's increasing radicalization. we found that there was a flawed personnel evaluation process that was very troubling. because not only was his radicalization evident, but the fact is, he wasn't a good doctor. and yet, many times he received outstanding ratings. one of his supervisors actually told the people at ft. hood, you're getting -- and yet that physician had an outstanding rating. so i would ask you to take a look at the rating process throughout the department of defense. i think that's absolutely critical. >> we actually are in the process of taking those lessons learned and adapting policies. but i will continue to work -- you have my commitment for that. >> thank you. thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you very much, senator collins. senator hagan. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and general demsy, i want to welcome you and looking forward to your confirmation and to mrs. dempsey, it's always a pleasure seeing you and i know this is definitely a team effort. >> i thank you for all y

aware of major hasan in the military an officer and doctor that has done bad thing and has been documented as allegations anyway at this point. the we have technology that we can use to enhance the screening experience for security purposes for those that we don't know. so the total rollout, for example, of the a.i.t. does not cover all 2200 checkpoints that we have at the 450 airports around the country. but it is to be deployed in a risk-based scenario looking at where the highest risk may be. .. toward the development of mutually recognized standards for the development of screening technologies. the manufacturers are open to this. it will result in lower cost and more highly effective units, and then back to the question, the risk-based security process, the results from that will help guide the application and investment in security screening technologies. thank you. >> another audience question. how can a risk-based security program be used to protect all areas of the airport and not just passenger screening? >> i'd be glad to take that. obviously if tsa has a shared responsibility p