they'd -- john carroll, one of its editors left. a year later, a good friend of mine left, and i went out in november of 2006 to take over the l.a. times, and i'll never forget, the first day i walked in, i walked in the door of the l.a. times, and the security guard says who are you? i said i'm jim o'shea, the new editor. he says okay, he gave me a pass into the building that was good for one day. [laughter] i thought that says a lot right there. [laughter] i walked into the newsroom and all around the news room are plastered pictures of dean bakaay and otis chandler, the god, zeus. i thought, okay, welcome. i had decided that i was just going to go there, and i was going to get up in front of the newsroom. i said right away, assemble the staff. i went out and i basically, you know, said, okay, i'm a journalist. i'm here. i think i can help you guys, and i just basically tried to be real honest to them. it appealed to the sense in journalists that they'll give you a fair shake. they traffic in fairness and balance, and if they thin