john frankenheimer wants you to be with robert fry andly marvin. i said, oh, that's nice. i'm going to pass. they said, what do you mean? i said, i'm bushed, man. i'm going to pass. they said, you're kidding me. he hung up and five minutes later lamont johnson called me and in a very low voice and said, i hope you turn this ice man cometh down. i said yes, i'm bush. he said, you're bushed? and i said yeah. and he said, you're a [ bleep ] . and he hung up on me. and i thought, well, i'm wondering what my career path will be here and i know i don't really particularly want to do this. maybe i will do it and this will put the final nail in the coffin. so i experimented. i got on board of that film and it was such an interesting experience. you know, most move ies if you're lucky, you shoot for eight, ten weeks. this was a ten-week rehearsal with a wonderful director and then we shot it in two weeks. so it was a big play and that was play was like four hours long. it was a chance of working with these old masters. >> and is that when you really fell in love with the craft? >>