host: josh quorman quotes in huffington post on may 13, after the proposals came out "the attackers are two years ahead of the defenders, who are two years ahead of the market, which is two years ahead of compliance, and legislation is five years behind that." how do you keep up? guest: how do you define being ahead? \ we are better than we were last year. we are better prepared. we apostasies not only in the government but outside the government. the bad actors exploit those same vulnerabilities. the typical thing we see is the anatomy or autopsy of one of these events. you have a fishing e-mail exploiting of vulnerability. we've seen that for 20 years. i do not know that anybody is ahead. we recognize that it is doing basic hygiene. legislation, there are some things we need to touch upon. penalties for impacting critical infrastructure. the impact of organized crime, which is part of the cyber crime thing we talked about a few months ago. -- minutes ago. i don't know we'd put two year s and two year. span'sthis is c- "the communicators". kicking off today, we are doing in four weeks