your colleague eager karloff said in one of his interviews i quote i like to draw like children do in primitive techniques what do you think makes such technique. tracked for contemporary artists in animation while our ego is a very strong artists and. yeah he might wish that he will draw like a kid even though he really admires let's say the drawings that my daughter made when she was like three years old he still has a few of them are on his wall. kids' day they think different day they do different they have such a freedom in their life and at the same time they are not burdened with the years of training in their lines and not straight or really thought out they just draw from hard and that what probably eager means because he wants to make you you know really come in from your soul and from your heart the way kids do it is that the reason why my son when he was about three four five years of age he did wonderful drawings i had them as you said on the wall but now he's like eleven and they and they tried to teach him to draw in school he's awfully he i mean he's worse than anybody