the ryan bill is an example that ideas can be generated. and without a system with integrity to debate those ideas, i could give you stacks of ideas. >> sure. >> i got people every day. i'll show you my e-mail box of more ideas than you know what to do with, but if we don't have a shared idea ar goals to solve as a group with wide interest, the best ideas in the world aren't going to solve the problem. >> call out the bad ideas. call out the fakery. >> i agree 100%. i'm saying without the goals. last and then we go. >> apparently now unless you pay you actually can't go share your idea. >> that's the last thing they're making people pay for these town halls. i want discuss the story. make it up in your head, look it up on the internet and you'll feel disgusted. banning money from politics, jimly do for us and we'll all do together. you read a hosh thing. oh, yeah, where's jimmy on that amendment? we'll stay on it. we'll stay on him. david stockman, thank you so much. appreciate it. karen, susan, thank you very emergency, and mr. williams, y

are doing i mean it's entirely different they're breaking up unions and one lol i'm going to go ryan's bill in the house of representatives every single republican voted to basically. turn medicare into a voucher system which has horrified america's seniors and could wipe out the republican party unless the republicans for can figure out a way to get the democrats to even. one person out of medicare so that they can say oh you know they want to do the same thing we're doing are they going to succeed in this strategy or the democrats going to follow this trail you know i think rhetorically democrats have often kind of fallen into a trap were guarding medicare and kind of pushing back against republicans but i think the more that people know about the ryan plan and the more that they really understand financially what this means for them in wisconsin paul ryan's home state it means seniors paying six thousand dollars more a year i mean it when people hear that it kind of gives that the startling democrats have been doing a better job of really pointing out kind of the absurdity of just taking

we'll ask paul ryan. bill miller head of legg mason capital management. >> then we'll talk about a candidate who has a lot riding on the first caucus state, tim pawlenty. from the thursday fox news debate to the crucial saturday straw poll, the stables are high. we'll ask our sunday panel who has the most to win and lose in iowa. all right now. on fox news sunday. hello again from fox news in washington. before we get to the economy, we want to bring you the latest on this terrible story out of afghanistan. insurgents shot done a u.s. military helicopter saturday, killing 38, including 22 favre very seals, from the same unite -- 22 navy seals from the same unit that took down bin laden. >> reporter: this is a devastating blow to the small tight-knit community of special operations forces in afghanistan. the single deadliest day for american troops since the war started 10 years ago. taliban were quick to claim responsible. saying they shot it down with a rocket propelled grenade. details are sketchy. it appear

we'll ask paul ryan. bill miller head of legg mason capital management. >> then we'll talk about a candidate who has a lot riding on the first caucus state, tim pawlenty. from the thursday fox news debate to the crucial saturday straw poll, the stables are high. we'll ask our sunday panel who has the most to win and lose in iowa. all right now. on fox news sunday. hello again from fox news in washington. before we get to the economy, we want to bring you the latest on this terrible story out of afghanistan. insurgents shot done a u.s. military helicopter saturday, killing 38, including 22 favre very seals, from the same unite -- 22 navy seals from the same unit that took down bin laden. >> reporter: this is a devastating blow to the small tight-knit community of special operations forces in afghanistan. the single deadliest day for american troops since the war started 10 years ago. taliban were quick to claim responsible. saying they shot it down with a rocket propelled grenade. details are sketchy. it appear

ryan white. the money will help pay for his medical bills. ryan cousin says he is improving. >>> another very volatile day on wall street. unlike yesterday, today was grim from the beginning. just got worse from the opening bell. stocks were on the decline. it did remain steady for several hours. made a big jump and plunged again. rob black had this to stay. >> not the worse year. we have seen worse. we got up 10% to down 10%, got people freaked out. >> micah and hong kong are both down right now. -- micah and hong kong are both [ male announcer ] kentucky grilled chicken. now with new bigger white meat breast pieces, marinated for juiciness. freshly seasoned and slow grilled by real cooks. just wait until you try this kentucky grilled chicken. it's that good. today tastes so good. . >>> britain survived its fifth night of civil unrust. the prime minister said there are pockets of our society that are broken and sick. another night of looting and vandalism since s.a.t. the violence spread. a massive police presence brought calm to the capital

ryan white. the money will help pay for his medical bills. ryan cousin says he is improving. >>> another very volatile day on wall street. unlike yesterday, today was grim from the beginning. just got worse from the opening bell. stocks were on the decline. it did remain steady for several hours. made a big jump and plunged again. rob black had this to stay. >> not the worse year. we have seen worse. we got up 10% to down 10%, got people freaked out. >> micah and hong kong are both down right now. -- micah and hong kong are both down right now. >>> i will have details on the up and down forecast coming up. turn left. you have arrived. sweet belt. e-reader for textbooks. gps. video camera for lectures. game pad. have you considered this ? it's got all that and more than 200,000 apps. technology to learn and play on-the-go. only at verizon. android powered. playstation certified. the xperia play by sony ericsson. only $99.99. . >>> britain survived its fifth night of civil unrust. the prime minister said there are pockets of our society that are

we'll ask paul ryan, republicann chair of the house budget committee and bill miller head of legg masonapitol management and it is showdown time in iowa. we'll talk to a candidate that has a lot riding on the caucus state, tim pawlenty . thursday fox news debate and exclusive saturday's straw poll, the stakes are high. we'll ask our panel who has the most to win or lose in iowa, all right now on fox news sunday. hello, again from fox news in washington. before we get to the economy, we'll bring you the latest on the terrible story out of afghanistan. insurgent shot down a u.s. military helicopter saturday killing 38 including 22 navy seals from the same unit that took down osama bin laden. fox news correspondant conner powell has more from cabble. conner? >>reporter: chris, this is a devastating blow to the small tight-knit community of special operations in afghanistan. it is a single deadliest day for american troops. the military is investigating the cause of the crash. the taliban were quick to claim responsibility saying they shot it down with a rocket-propelled grenade. the force

vote for cap and balance, cap and balance would cut medicare and social security worse than the ryan bill did. i'm glad they didn't. anyone who votes republican this time should not be complaining. the last time they voted them in and they almost destroyed our country. they are laughing at us and around the country because they could not get together and compromise. it took them all this time to compromise. it hurt us. it brought down -- people did not go buy things because they were afraid to spend their money. it was hurting us. senior citizens, if you want your social security and medicare, you better vote for the democrats this time because ryan and the republicans are coming after our medicare. get out there and vote. if you have to crawl on your knees. i am from west virginia and i know the people down there, the seniors need their money. we know make much and i want to cut it. at the end of the month, we don't have money to buy food and medicine. please, seniors, please remember to vote for democrats this year. if you vote for republicans, ryan will get his way we will not have a c

donated half of their lunchtime proceeds from noon until 3 today for the fund to help pay ryan's medical bills. >> he has been making steady progress, said his first words yesterday. and even called me today, said a few things. he is doing better. obviously, it is a long road ahead. got a lot of healing to do. >> san francisco police have arrested a 21-year-old hayward man on charges of drunk driving and felony hit-and-run. >>> and police are investigating an unusual robbery in concord. take a look at this, surveillance video caught the thieves in the act as they crashed a truck right through a window, and then stole an atm full of cash, happening at a bingo establishment on industrial avenue. we learned some of the students will be impacted as a result of this crime. >> reporter: surveillance video shows two men ramming their truck through the front glass windows of the doors at the blue devil bingo hall this morning. they quickly grab an entire atm and drive off. >> probably about 5000, in $20 bills in the atm. >> reporter: not to mention the machine itself, worth thousands. the impact of th

ryan nearly $42,000. in return, he introduced two bills to give the company tax breaks. her friend, the national wholesalers association gave ryan more than $72,000. in return, he co-sponsored five different bills designed to lower taxes for beer brewers. ryan claims to want to simplify the tax code. maybe he just wants it simplify the sweet breaks he gives his friends. nice try, congressman, but we got you. ♪ [ country ] [ man ] ♪ gone, like my last paycheck ♪ gone, gone away ♪ gone, like my landlord's smile ♪ ♪ gone, gone away ♪ my baby's gone away with dedicated claims specialists... and around-the-clock service, travelers can help make things better quicker. will your auto and home insurer... be there when you need them most? for an agent or quote, call 800-my-coverage... or visit travelers.com. i've tried it. but nothing's helped me beat my back pain. then i tried this. it's salonpas. this is the relief i've been looking for. salonpas has 2 powerful pain fighting ingredients that work for up to 12 hours. and my pharmacist told me it's the only otc pain patch approved

they will take on billings, montana. ryanas a hit off his glove, stays with it, gets the out. arizona finished its 11 game road trip at 5-6. 49ers and the texasans are coming up saturday night on cbs 5. >> three grand slams. >> yeah, pretty amazing. when you consider the 1927 yankees and everything historically that franchise has accomplished, it happened ,,,,,,,,

they will take on billings, montana. ryants has a hit off his glove, stays with it, gets the out. arizona finished its 11 game road trip at 5-6. 49ers and the texasans are coming up saturday night on cbs 5. >> three grand slams. >> yeah, pretty amazing. when you consider the 1927 yankees and everything historically that franchise has accomplished, it happened tonight against the a's. >> amazing. >> we'll be right back. ,,,,,,,, hi...do you happen to have any brilliant silver altimas? yea, right over here. look at 'em all. what about a black frontier with utilitrack? absolutely. oh, great, that's awesome. what about a platinum graphite rogue with touch-screen nav, bluetooth, and...a moonroof? with or without leather? we got 'em both. [ sighs ] i gotta get back. [ male announcer ] the most innovative cars are also the most available cars. nissan. innovation for all.

the money will go to help pay for his medical bills. ryan'susin was with him when he was hit, he says the little boy is improving but it will be a long road to recovery. >> brian is doing a lot better, he has made progress every day obviously has a long road ahead of him. but just yesterday he was speaking for the first time a word or two here and there, a sentence, i spoke with him on the phone today and i heard that he was in stable enough condition to be able to transport soon. >> they raised about $6,000 in today's fund raiser. [music] >> it was a little cooler out there today lifted the current conditions. temperatures in the inland valleys we cool down in the north bay and in the bayshores theory is 69 oakland, 70--75 hayward. and a few degrees cooler in the inland valleys. as we head into tomorrow, we will continue the cooling trend fog will be the big story. the sea breeze when will start to move into the inland valley. the temperatures will drop in places like concord down to the low 80s 82 there, and a cooling trend will continue as

question is, how much more time do the lib call democrats like harry reid who clearly says the paul ryan bill is dead on a rival with no debate or discussion with no plan from their own or our president i think the answer is clear. they're both at part but one party is not leading right now and the only par cione that is republican party. >> from our twitter page. john from north care lie. we elected a president and congress that spend like school girls at the mall with a credit card. we got what we voted. when everyone is responsible no one is responsible. republicans are clearly responsible by passing a clear bill and working a part to address the deficit. republican objective to work for the failure of the president. middle class will pay the price with increased rates on credit cards and mortgages to an infrastructure projects. 8 page summary on-line at s&p.com. get more information on why the agency lowers the u.s. credit rating. here's the essence. the downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolation plan that congress agreed to falls sort of short of the medium term debt dyna

ryan plan. >> bret: bill, is there any scenario that entitlement reform can be an asset to the republicans?> sure, people understand that we need to reform entitlementings. where is that debt coming from? entitlements that are 60 percent of the federal budget and despite president obama irresponsible spending entitlements are at the core of the problem . i think they can do that successfully. >> bret: you spoke out in favor of congressman pat ryan getting in the race. do you believe that he's getting in. >> one development and i said this in the mail, ryan rubio shows huge grass roots support. people all over the country produce it. >> it is the illiteration ticket. good for republicans. i think it is 50-50 and we'll know in a week. i bet he would run and if he doesn't i think chris christie is going to run. i don't think it is likely to be the final field. >> bret: you agree. >> it is late in the day. if they don't act in a couple of weeks it is tough. paul is a serious person and admire the fact of him focusing on entitlements. but it doesn't help if you have serious publication and endin

join me "fox news sunday" talk to paul ryan and market legend bill miller about what washington can and

ryan white last week allegedly last week. a fundraiser added thousands of dollars to the donation to help pay the pennsylvania boy's medical bills. his family says ryan is making improvements. >>> two women pulled from a burning home in san francisco have died from their injuries. 84-year-old marilyn postally and her caretaker 67-year-old connie suffered smoke inhalation and burns from the fire sunday night on jackson street. they died on tuesday. the "chronicle" reports the fire department was delayed because the first emergency call went to a private party instead of 911. >>> new this morning britain's prime minister is turning to the u.s. for help after four nights of rioting. today parliament holds an emergency session on all that violence. >> welcome to manchester. [ screaming ] >> like a war zone. police in london rounding up hundreds of suspects following overnight raids on homes. officers have adopted more aggressive tactics against rioters and looters. they have arrested nearly 900 people since the violence started on saturday. >>> the prime minister says he wants to look to cities like boston, l.a. and new york for adv

michael steele, 66 republicans voted against the bill that was largely favorable to what ryan says wasldn't boehner keep the caucus together? >> for the same reasons that 95 democrats voted for the bill. >> well, i know why 95 voted for the bill. because they were told that unlike what was asked by mr. boehner that now it's put over until 2013, not this christmas. you have large cuts in the pentagon. the largest since the '90s. we have social security off the table, medicare and medicaid, other than providers. so some of them probably thought that was better than what they were told. >> all that is going to be back on the table with this committee coming in the fall. >> we'll see where it goes. the bush tax cuts will expire. why couldn't you all keep it together? >> maybe, maybe not. we don't know. we'll see what the recommendations are once we get past this point. the more significant thing to note here is that as much as folks would like to keep a lot of victory with the tea party activists and the congress, those citizen legislators if you will, the dynamic in washington has changed

talking about the economy with the house budget committee chairman congressman paul ryan and chief investment officer bill miller and sits down for an exclusive interview with presidential candidate tim pawlenty on sunday. prosecutors going for the maximum punishment against warren jeffs after a jury convicted the politic man of child sexual assault. uh, i'm in a timeout because apparently riding the dog like it's a small horse is frowned upon in this establishment! luckily though, ya know, i conceal this bad boy underneath my blanket just so i can get on e-trade. check my investment portfolio, research stocks... wait, why are you taking... oh, i see...solitary. just a man and his thoughts. and a smartphone... with an e-trade app. ♪ nobody knows... [ male announcer ] e-trade. investing unleashed. >>trace: the punishment phase considers in the jeffs trial after he was found guilty of child sex assault. but the 55-year-old leader who is representing himself asked to be excused from the courtroom in protest. he faces up to life in prison and prosecutors have said they plan to seek the maximum. they are expec

bills. >> good for ryan. that's great news. >>> u.s. stock futures are falling in the wake of the market's best day since 2009 yesterday. the strong finish by the dow plus the federal reserve's pledge to keep interest rates at record lows helped asian stocks rebound in a big way today. hong kong's hang seng rose more than 3%. japan's nikkei climbed 1.1%. south korea's kospi was up 1.8%. >>> yesterday the dow closed up nearly 430 points as you see. the bulk of that was in the latter part of the day. that is one of the best performances in nearly 2.5 years. it recovered more than half of what it lost in monday's 63 had- point plunge. the index -- 634-point plunge. the index is still off from the high of the year. >>> a designer drug is popping up in the bay area. some people are using bath salts to get high and it can be deadly. stephanie chuang is live in livermore where police are warning parents to be on the lookout. >> reporter: people are grinding up these so-called bat salts and then sniffing them and police say that you get the sam

theater just for opening your cellphone so let's assume you're a congressman paul ryan for example and you just passed a bill that takes medicare away from your voters you may have some concerns about questions that your constituents would put you out of public town all right so what do you do privatized the town hall move it into a private space or a space under the supervision of a private entity or corporation and make it quite clear that it's private and not just anybody can speak up and that anybody who misbehaves can be thrown out just like going to the movies impossible you say well from now on if you live in paul ryan's district in illinois and want to ask him a question at a town hall it's going to cost you fifteen bucks to be exact now to be outdone dan quayle is charging forty bucks a question in arizona it's the newest republican trend paul ryan and a number of other republicans are now outsourcing their town hall events to private organizations that charge people at the door to attend. this is coming from the party that supports the outsourcing of millions of american manufacturing jobs that sup

to bolter the economy are congressman paul ryan, republican chair of the house budget committee who is in his home state of wisconsin and here in the studio, bill miller, head of legg mason capital management who beat the s&p 500 index for 15 years. start with the downgrade. congressman ryan, what do you think of the decision and if the u.s. is forced to pay more in interest rates to borrow, to go further into debt isn't that going to add tens of billions of dollars to the deficit? >> if we go up another point it adds about a trillion dollars or more over the ten year window so yes, clearly i'm not very surprised that the downgrade. we more or less saw you this coming because we are on the wrong fiscal path. we will find out tomorrow what kind of spike in rates we will get but obviously not only does it hurt the federal government and its ability to close the deficit. it hurts people. car loans, home loans, all these things are going to go up and it is because washington has not gotten its fiscal house in order and to me this is more vindication of our actions. we passed a budget which according to s&p yesterday would have prevented this downgr

spielberg was cashing in on world war ii or the holocaust because he made private ryan and schindler's list. that's absurd. >> billou think though? see, it took me by surprise because you now are out of the presidential sweepstakes. >> yeah. >> bill: you are a fox news host. >> there you go. >> bill: yeah, but, you know, come on, why -- why would they spend so much time on this, yeah, if they wants to take a cheap shot at you fine, almost like jihad against you. why are they bothering with huckabee? >> i don't care that they are attacking me. i do care that they are attacking the animated series for kids because i think it's valid. >> bill: probably don't like the basic message that america is a good country. that's probably what it comes down to. >> i think that's a lot of it real issue for us is that they never made contact and tried to get another part of the story. >> bill: they will never do that. are you kidding me? it's always propaganda. come on. now, what about the issue that riches is concerned about that there is money being made off of 9/11 where so many people suffer? >> again, bill, the very host tha

ryan's parents, bill and leslie ferguson, are joining us now, along with their son's attorney, kathleenie, why after so many years, almost ten years, what has been what has consistently driven you to never give up, to fight to prove your son is nbinnocent? >> that's easy. we know our son is innocent. we want to free him as soon as possible. >> what makes you know. >> i know him personally. >> we know ryan. >> i played basketball with him. grew up together. he's my best friend. it's just not his nature to do anything like that. >> no prior record? >> no. >> and there was no evidence as we just heard at the scene linking him to the crime. and the only -- just the word of his friend was what convicted him. why do you think the jury felt that was enough to convict your son, leslie? >> i -- i think when someone is arrested and taken to a trial, that people automatically think they must be guilty. it's kind of a preconceived idea people have. it's very hard to get past the fact that someone is confessing and chuck, in their mind, had confessed to this crime. >> kathleen, in a filing with the

ryan. we'll talk to bill miller, the head of leg mason capital management.tive ryan, of course, hammering the president on exactly what sort of jobs plan do you have? we saw that yesterday. it will be curious what you think about this. we're going to start to see more of that in the press room when we saw a number of reporters asking the white house spokesman about that. what is the president's plan for jobs? >> absolutely. here is the president of the united states, 2 1/2 years in, and he's talking about going to the midwest to have a listening tour the week after next and i think a lot of people would say, mr. president, you don't need to listen to us. it's your government. you know the numbers. you've been in it 2 1/2 years. how are you going to get us out? the president talked a lot in the 2010 campaign about the car was driven into the ditch. it seems to be back in the ditch. how are you going to get us out? >> gretchen: interestingly enough, we're going to have eric bolling coming up, talking about these numbers as well to get his analysis. when you ha

bill: paul ryan on sunday with chris wallace was saying don't get your hopes up for that supercommittee. we've had plenty of bailouts, europe, a huge one, for, what, italy? , and what else. >> italy and spain. you thought the t.a.r.p. was big when wall street was rescued. that's a couple of banks. this is a couple of large countries, which are being rescued. i'm calling it a bailout. basically, the european central bank is going to provide an awful lot of money, it has to go into the trillions, to italy and spain, because they can't get the money from any place else. they face default if they don't get the cash. bill: how do you bail out a country? we'll find out whether or not you can. best it your colleagues doing all of this, all right? a lot to cover. alisyn: this morning we're keeping a close eye on the other credit rating agencies, moody's rating service is warning it may join s&p in downgrading the u.s., fitch saying it's financing its review of the u.s. and should be done by the end of the month, that agency said the debt deal was an important first step but not the end of the p

fundraiser yesterday added thousands of dollars to the donations to help pay for the medical bills of 9-year-old ryan white hit in a crosswalk. the boy is improving. >>> the two women pulled from a burning home in san francisco have died from their injuries. 48-year-old marilyn and her caretaker suffered from burns and smoke inhalation on sunday night in jackson street. both women died on tuesday. the "chronicle" reports that the fire department was delayed because the first emergency call went to a private party instead of to 911. >>> the british parliament is examining police response to the wave of riots that have hit london. officers have adopted a more aggressive tactic against the rioters. citizens are also clashing with rioters to protect their property. >>> a dramatic end this to a nationwide search for three siblings. police have been on the lookout for 21-year-old ryan dougherty, his 29-year-old sister lee and their 26-year-old brother dylan since they fled from florida police last week. the trio they are accused of firing at least 20 shots at an officer who tried to pull them over and then

it is ryan reiss, actor, comedian and he is three things. bill shultz is on assignment, or rather reassign meant. he is finally getting the surgery he has been saving up for. and it is the pink owe he doesn't stinko. and sitting next to me is fox news contributor, columnist and author. yes, she has won prizes. to the first story. should he celebrate 5-0 and turn his birthday into a pay day? well on wednesday night the president held a blowout in chicago. it was actually more of a fundraiser with tickets selling up to $40 million. no, it is more like $36,000. not surprisingly some were bashing like the illinois gop chairman who noted, quote, we have lost125,000 jobs in illinois since he took office. and then there is mitt romney who tweeted, barack obama celebrates his 50th b-day and collects $35,800 checks, but is struggling due to his failed policy. what does ill stand for? indonesian labor? obama has a plan and it involves a van. actually it is something bigger. later this month barack is going on a midwest bus tour that will focus on jobs. yea

the bill that passed today takes it down to $26 trillion. ryan took it to to $23 trillion, but we've lost a little bit of that leverage here today but the people on the other side and the president has convinced me also, he never wants to live under a plansed budget and certainly doesn't want to have a constitution that would order that that be so. so what do the american people have to say about people who are committed to deficit spending in perpetuity, what do they think happens? where do they think america gos if we take our hands off of their rollback on the reens and the spending goes on and we borrow the money to fill all the wants of the american people for now and what happens to our children and grandchildren when they have to service that debt or when the roof caves in when no one will loan us money anymore and we mega greece. it came to a head today, it's a long ways from over, this is a start, it's not the end, it's just a start. i thank the gentleman from arizona and yield back. mr. franks: i thank the gentleman from iowa, one of my

ryan decides. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. bill now", what are you working on today? >> guess who's joining us? stephen hayes is joining us in 20 minutes to talk about his report on paul ryan potentially entering the race, you'll hear it directly from him. also the millionaires who want to raise taxes on themselves, why do they want to do that? >> and the devil wears prada, or does it? does it pay to be mean at work? >> a new study that's raising eyebrows. here's a hint, bill. it may pay for you to be mean, it's not going to pay for martha to be mean, just so you know. bill: i see the gender difference! >> martha: you do? that's so funny. we're so glad. bill: a heart-felt home coming, a soldier and his dog, reunited after nine months apart. it is can't-miss video! watch this: >> >> foints creativity but not much else no, ord -- ordinary dwi arrest, a man on a pork lift, leading police on a chase in texas, cops say he was chugging beers and making obscene gestures as he drove down that road at 3 miles an hour, the man telling police

how you doing, ryan, good morning. >> doing great, bill, hope you're doing well, too. bill: i'm doing fine, thank you. what is the expectation for tonight? >> well, i think the expectation is that it's really the green flag going down and starting this very serious debate on how we are going to make sure that we put america back on track, make barack obama a 1-item president. and i will agree with what the congresswoman has just said. you know, i think people are tired of the show ponies in washington like our president who say one thing and do another, and you know, he hasn't fulfilled so much of his promises. it would take me five minutes to go through it. but the debt, the decifit, jamming government-run health care down our throats, loss of jobs, and really, just one speech after the next that's done little. bill: you mentioned the debt. all these candidates do not agree on the same solution, and you wonder where you're going to find the disagreement tonight on that topic, where. >> well, for one thing on the debt, as a base, plo plotilis facts called barack obama

bill. i think there's more a more optimistic mood. >> you have the votes tonight? >> john, while we -- speaker binner has not answered my question. paul ryan is the chair of the house budget committee. he seemed pretty confident today at a news conference with speaker boehner saying he thinks this bill will prevail, going to prevail with a majority of republicans. one thing we've been tracking throughout the day is where do house democratic leaders stand? because they have refuse to take a position throughout the day. just a couple hours ago, we finally heard from a top aide that the democratic leader nancy pelosi, she was a yes vote, she was going to support and shortly right after that we saw steny hoyer, the number two democrat in the house take the house floor and throw his full support behind it. it's not perfect, but this is what we have. there seems to be a bit in 24 deal for everyone to dislike, and that seems to be part of the sales job we've been hearing from democratic and republican leaders saying this is not perfect, it's what compromise is. it's more important that we pass this rather than threaten default. >> kate baldwin wi

upper echelons of the right i mean they are very pro israel you look at bill kristol who is magazine was able announce that paul ryan mammie not be running for president i mean those people it still matters to them do you think we're really cares about i'm not sure rupert murdoch does which again is why i think it may not be as conspiratorial as it appears i think really was it is it is media people relying on you know the small slice of the g.o.p. that they have access there is there a chance i mean there's a lot of energy behind ron paul there's a lot of true believers people who just absolutely follow him is there a possibility that that could split off into a third party candidacy that we could see another ross perot well i asked paul's campaign when he announced that he would not be running for reelection to congress so essentially said he'll be retiring from congress with regardless of whether or not he's president he said id's right yes yes he's getting up there and i asked i said does this mean if you're not running for reelection to congress because he's always been able to do both i said if you're not does

bill i think its ryan preabus. i'm shocked that there's criticism here of the people on the committee. i mean, patty murray, she raises money? unlike every other member of the senate or congress. i'm shocked about that. bill: gretchen, republicans are saying max baucus is the key, he's a moderate guy over the years, he's worked with republicans. is the vote you sway to come to the republican side to get a simple majority? by the way, we should let our viewers know, this is what they need to decide, the deadline for the plan is november 25th, right before thanksgiving, also the goal, to reduce the decifit by $1.5 trillion, in this committee, if the majority passes the plan, there will be an up or down vote in congress by christmas day. without a majority, automatic cuts go to defense and medicare spending. what about that gretchen? >> well, i think these cuts need to be made, and i think, you know, while of course we are disappointed by the democrats, it's because of their record. he could have appointed people from

in this bill we achieve 2/3 of the discretionary cuts included in the ryan budget in the past prosperity that the republicans , the house members believe in. someone goes, the senate passed a budget and agreed to 2/3 of your cuts. in discretionary we would have celebrated. we're not celebrating today because we know there's so much work to be done. we know also this holds -- this cuts spending today. it puts controls on future congresses in the way they spend. that's important. and holds congress and the white house more accountable for getting the size of this government back in control. without increasing taxes on families like you, on our job creators back home on main street. mr. camp: i yield an additional 30 second. mr. brady: thank you, chairman. thank you, speaker. it does so today. i support this bill as a first step, anxious to get to more spending and savings and getting this wasteful, bloated government down to size, and i know, too, any vote, my principle is tax cuts and spending cuts, if i can change the direction of this country with bigger spending cuts, my vote will be a

he gets a nominee from the republican party who supported the ryan plan on medicare and who he can bring that credible criticism to. >> billcan you imagine any scenario where entitlement reform could be an asset to republicans in 2012? >> sure. because people understand i think and certainly the right candidate can help the american public further understand that we need to fundamentally reform entitlements. we are $1.5 trillion in debt. where is that debt coming from? >> entitlements which are 60% of the federal budget and going up much more quickly than the rest of the federal budget. it is entitlements that are the core of the problem. of course, republicans are going to run on entitlement reform as they should and i think they can do to successfully. >> bret: you have spoken out in favor of congressman paul ryan getting in the race. is there any development on that? do you really believe he is getting in? >> the main development, i got sent this in the mail. ryan rubio 2012 button which shows huge grass roots support for the effort here. people all over the country having the buttons produced at their own expense. rr i

see things differently i think one thing that paul ryan suggested and it's not separate from jobs is see medicare yeah so that's one of the jobs bill no but if it is creating a retirement that's going to create jobs and creating jobs as i said you know if making an environment it's good for creating jobs is you know step after joe we're still a free money salaries here and you have a situation where the. ninety nine er's who have been out of work all this time what america wants now are not jobs thirty years from now ten years from now they want to write and i mean only play one small role and that the government should not be creating jobs or whatever but every employee and you believe. people for people who say they are here who are who are meaningfully employed we ought to be concerned about those who are unemployed and they're there and you have the last word on that last question quickfire science nasa scientists or science is affiliate with nasa released a report suggesting what might happen if we come into contact with aliens they warn that aliens may destroy the human population after witnessing the damage we're doing to th

ryan with a new tat. coming up on "morning joe," gabby giffords makes a surprise return to washington to vote for the billert a debt crisis. what are the implications for the economy of that bill she voted for? we'll knock it around with our crew. and when we come back here, we'll huddle up around the water cooler to watch jon stewart take on the tea party and, yes, he was animated. this is a good one. [ shapiro ] at legalzoom, you can take care of virtually all your important legal matters in just minutes. now it's quicker and easier for you to start your business... protect your family... and launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. vietnam, 1967. i got mine in iraq, 2003. u.s.a.a. auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation, because it offers a superior level of protection and because u.s.a.a.'s commitment to serve the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. u.s.a.a. we know what it means to serve. >>> the vote is today at noon, but it still may not be enough to prevent the united states from