love you back to carol because i don't think they carol swain is saying that you and others that all muslims are bad but i think that she is thing and carol answer because i mean you're saying that there needs to be some sort of closer look taken at the muslim community is that correct no i think the muslim community needs to hear what they acknowledge and that there is a public relations problem but it would be very helpful if some of the muslim leaders instead of calling people they criticize islam haters and nazis and whatever they want to call than they need to to try to preach differences and can d.m. some of the violence and i take such extremist rhetoric i think the tone of this program since the wrong signal i'm more concerned about anti-semitism because it is growing if you look at the f.b.i. hate crime statistics it's the jews in america and in parts of the world really running for their lives the other ones that's been threatened i'd like to see us can be a bear we have to have a society where we can talk about the threat of radical islam the recruitment of black young peop

to help me do that earlier i spoke to a couple people with some strong opinions on this matter carol swain professor of political science and law at vanderbilt and nashville tennessee carol is also the author of be the people of culture reclaim america's space and promise and in studio i had a human abdulla mussa who is the director of the mustard all islam islam and center here in washington d.c. started off by asking our guests to comment on the notion that today feelings about feelings by some about muslims can be compared to anti japanese sentiment after pearl harbor take a listen. no i think this is more like a hipster ism with jews in germany in a 1930's the way muslims are being treated the way a justification is made to spy on muslims all over the united states to allow entrapment and what have you and the general open harassment of muslims is worse than mccarthyism it is more like most of us and because there is a state of fear that exists in the muslim community today carol i want to get your response to that do you think that islamophobia here in america first of all is alive an

will any of this ever change or will americans always be scared of the big bad muslim will have carol swain professor of political science and of law at vanderbilt and in one of the all the new stuff to debate some of these questions will be coming up new at five pm and that's going to do it for now but for more on the stories we covered go to our team dot com slash usa or check out our youtube page at youtube dot com slash r t america i'm christine present on. wealthy british scientists. time to. market why not. come to find out what's really happening to the global economy with my stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to the report on our cheap guitar sometimes you see a story and it seems so please give thanks to understand it and then he lives something else here sees some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm trying hard welcome to the big picture. for. the mission of free credit haitian free comes for charges free coming from inside the free risk free studios tonight free. download free books you know sp

the notion of islamophobia in america today and to help me take a deeper look i'm joined now by carol swain professor of political science and law of better university in nashville tennessee carroll is also the author of the the people call to reclaim america's faith and promise and here in studio i have him on the always moves on director of the masjid islamic center here in washington d.c. thank you both for being here and let's just start with the report that we just saw in the end our correspondent on a saucer turkana makes the comparison of islamophobia to anti japanese sentiment after pearl harbor some have also compared it to mccarthyism in mom i'll start with you do you think of is a fair comparison. this is more like there is a. german.

as you both said it is important that we are talking about it that's what we're doing here with carol swain professor of political science and law at vanderbilt university and the author of the book be the people and also a moment to all the new stuff and the director of the mustard all islam temple here in washington. a look now at poverty in america new numbers out that paints a bleak picture of just how much and how many people are suffering across the united states the u.s. census bureau published data today that shows that the number of americans living below the poverty line rose to a record forty six point two million people last year you take a look you can see that is the highest number of people since the census bureau began tracking poverty figures in one thousand fifty nine that's like a line on the bottom is the rate of poverty about fifteen percent now that is one in five americans are one of five and a half americans living under eleven thousand one hundred thirty nine dollars for a single person or less than twenty two thousand three hundred fourteen dollars for a family of

professor and author of be the people and political analyst, carol swain congratulations on the success don't know if i should mention, a good friend of mine sent me a note about an issue you are involved in at vand belt is interesting. >> could we say that? >> sean: i'm not allowed to talk about it tonight? >> no. >> sean: what did you think of the debate? >> i taught it was more of the same. per a lot of damage to himself. i think it is going to dry up some money to him. going to get more to donate to romney who apparently was the star. i think maybe some of these people who were second tier may move up. bachmann the others. i still think that -- [ talking over each other ] >> sean: i thought they all had good nights. >> santorum especially. obama's numbers are terrible. you have to beat him with somebody. i said always said that romney used to look to me like the banker who turned your loan down. and the other guy, perry he looked like the guy columbo used to chase around sunday nights on television. >> sean: how do you describe yourself? >> i'm not running for president. >> sean: yo

>> reporter: it certainly appears to be if your carol swain. or one of four christian groups placed on provisional status after vanderbilt said you're in none come phrao*eupbgs with a policy. all student groups cannot require their leaders to say are the groups, goals, beliefs and values and it affects christian groups to a greater degree. they are is the constitution from the christian legal society. they say, quote, each officer is expected to lead bible studies, prayer and worship at chapter meetings. would seem to be a no-brainer right? the university says, vanderbilt policies do not allow this expectation, qualification for officers. justin g u.n. ter is the president of the christian society at vanderbilt university. he says he's negotiating with the university to change the constitution but says he will only go so far. >> the point where they are saying we can't have bible studies and prayer meetings as a part of our constitution, if we go beyond that we're compromising the very identity of who we are as christians and the very thing we

professor carol swain who is a professor of law at vanderbilt university wrote an op ed about it.oblem here, the growing secular ization at universities. >> they really are trampling on the first amendment rights not only of students but also of faculty. it's time for us to stand up for our constitutional rights and values. >> reporter: some of these groups have been negotiating with the university to try to come into compliance with the nondiscrimination policy but the christian legal society says it's gone about as far as it can go. we reached out to vanderbilt official force comment. they won't give us an on camera interview. they said, quote, we are committed to making our campus a welcoming environment for all of our students. in terms of the offending groups, the university said, we continue to work with them to achieve compliance. we should mention the catholic group at vandy. vandy catholic came into compliance by watering down the constitution so leaders only need to be undergraduate students at vanderbilt. the christian legal society which had had problems with nonbeliev

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