you can find that at cwa-union.org. juliana bruin wald, next question -- grunewald, next question. >> host: on the day the justice department filed its lawsuit which was the same day at&t announced the 5,000 jobs commitment, you guys said the lawsuit was simply wrong. can you explain what justice got wrong in their lawsuit? >> guest: yeah. so many key points are the ones you've already raised, but it's the difference of a dynamic versus a static industry. so in addition to 4g being the norm, you have the over-the-top services as we would call them. microsoft spent $8 billion and butte -- bought skype. skype interrupted the service provider, and there's hundreds of local service providers which they also skipped over, and grabbed the foreign traff

you can find that at cwa --.org. spent the day the justice department filed lawsuit which was the same day that at&t announced a 5,000 job commitment you guys said the lawsuit was simply wrong. can you explain what was wrong in the lawsuit? >> some of them are the ones you already raised its the too of the

quick calculations of who's in the room, and particularly with all my old, excuse me, friends from cwa and so many other unions remitted, i'd say we probably have about 1500 to 2000 years worth of experience here in labor lawyering, labor organizing, labor education -- [laughter] labor-oriented academic work, labor community coalition building and just plain old labor trouble making. so i know that with this wealth of experience we're going to have a great discussion. among our very special guests who i want to introduce first is one of the courageous nurses at washington hospital center who went out on strike last friday. [applause] sister erniing -- ernic fennel. if you could stand up. [applause] hopefully, ken -- [inaudible] if he's not here, formerly of the afl and now of the national nurses' united. during the question period maybe she can talk a little bit more about the issues involved in that strike. readers of the hard copy of "the washington post" will notice, i'm sure, that the washington hospital center is spending tens of thousands of dollars telling the folks of this comm

in the way the labor movement should and people are not thinking first along the number of the cwa orthe s clu. it's about us and we add all of us, and what we can accomplish so, i think the response of the clc around the country on the way to direct to the top in 2005 a lot of people are very worried about what happened and people with the local level seem to have more sense of the value of the long-term relationships and the solidarity charter mechanism developed and actually in most places is relatively little of the expected or the feared disruption of the labor union -- unity regardless of what the people did here or in the area of working together or not. let's hear from some other folks, any other topics that we seem to be missing. >> i'm from the newspaper guild. one of the labor journalists here. it struck me for many years but there's one thing of the movement really lacks. we are spread all over the lot and get involved in every single cause known to man and we don't have a unified seem. as much as i hate to quote him, richard trumka on the ptsd and i'd actually articulate

cwa is looking out for its own members, as you would expect it to do. not jobs as a whole, and if you look at the jobs study, it shows that the number of workers that could lose their jobs if this transaction reprove is far greater than any benefit that cwa might receive. >> is that jobs study available on your website? >> i believe is, but if it is not, we will make it available. >> on our website is the sprint lawsuit against the merger, if you want to read that again, c- span.org/communicators. vonya mccann, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> she and other critics of this merger have said they have never seen a murder that does not result in job losses for workers. my question for you as the head of union, why are you supporting this deal? >> first of all, as you may have talked about with her, i am not sure, at&t committed that all call center work and the level of employment at all the call centers of both companies would continue post merger. this is a huge commitment. brent, for example, contracts out most of it should reject sprint contract

cwa, aft, weingard.labor and civil rights come togethering that weekend since it is the spirit of dr. king to talk about the jobs bill left before the congress now and to say that as dr. king fought merging the two groups, we are going to march that day to say we need to deal with the unemployment, that is record proportions in our country. >> more than half of respondents say that the president's plan is not going to help bring down unemployment. what does the president need to do to better get his message out? do you think that today's interviews he is doing in key states are going to do the trick for him? is there a lot more work ahead? >> i think that the beginning is some of what he's -- going to do going you a round the country. the fact is that when we look at the economists that -- i think that bloomberg news interviewed, and they said that it would actually change by a couple of percentage points, it would create 1.9 million jobs. it begins a starting point. it clearly won't solve all of the pro