mr. sperling, some think we are seeing a double dip recession. so what's the thinking?, the thinking is that we are not going to have any revenues go up this year or next even on high income americans. so what the president was saying was that we need to take bold action now to get our growth going, again, we've seen people estimating growth to be 2% higher, difference between a weak recovery and a strong recovery, two million jobs. this just came out today from mark zanby, a former advisor to the mccain campaign said this could create 1.9 million jobs. we are not -- even though we believe taxes on people like warren buffet, the most fortunate, have to be part of us getting our long term deficit down, even there, we're not calling for any revenue increases this year and next. we want to do everything we can to get this recovery to take hold. >> so how -- so you tell me, gene, you're the great numbers guy. tell the american people how this is going to be paid for. everybody wants a great new bridge and great new road but is it at the cost of our deficit? is this another