ms. schaake?is. >> guest: i agree that's necessary, but there also some circheses that doesn't -- conferences that doesn't have to be a problem. i think we can be in a good alliance with each other, but each has their own role to play. when we look at issues such as swift, the storing of financial transaction data of e.u. citizens which are shipped in bulk to the united states to be monitored by a private entity, that leads to serious questions about democratic oversight, and we see sort of a backlash of that on the e.u. side. the other issue is that of fragmentation. james mentioned intellectual property rights. i think that's, indeed, a very important topic but also an area in which europe we need reform in order to benefit from the opportunity that is the digital environment brings to access greater amounts of audiences and to actually use the benefits that the internet has without seeking not to take care of the creators. but we have to rebalance that, and in terms of balance i think this alwa

ms. schaake is from the netherlands, we appreciate you both coming over on to "the communicators." kim hart of "the politico", thank you as well. >> host: thank you. >> labor journalist steve early examines the current organizing strategies and structures of many labor unions in the united states. he also reports on the internal conflicts from 2008 to 2010 that according to the author hurt union reputations and angered supporters. this is about an hour and 20 minutes. [applause] >> i want to thank everybody for coming out here tonight, and i want to thank the busboys team, and it is a great team which tonight includes christine taylor from booktv at c-span, want to thank her for doing the video work. [applause] it's going to make the proceedings a little more formal than when we were at the 14th location and kind of did an oprah number with the microphone floating around and mainly a question period. um, going to talk for about 15 minutes so they get some tape of something, and then we're going to have to do the questions union convention style. [laughter] you're going to have to l