rendition flights around the world of an update on that story next and also has the cia turned into a killing agency instead of an intelligence agency but again the subject was scott horton contributing editor of harper's magazine. into that only a new regime and you don't work to bring justice or accountability. no i have every right to know what my government should do it want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know some judges see a story and it seems so for like the plague is it you understand it and then he lives something else here's some other part of it and realized everything you saw you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big fish. says. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think iraq is on the oil. we have a government says they're going to keep you safe get ready because the freedom. for. got an update on a story we first brought you yesterday they were how billing dispute between two aviation companies and leaking sensitive details about the cia an extraordinary rendition a

9/11 to know that those of us in the business consider it the cia's finest hour. we went in to kick ass, and we did. ( siren blaring ) >> there have been dramatic developments on the ground in the war in afghanistan. >> the taliban have suffered a series of defeats as northern alliance... >> narrator: washington publicly celebrated the first victory in what they began to call "the war on terror." >> there were celebrations in afghanistan's capital today. >> the capture of kabul follows a series of stunning successes by the northern alliance. >> house sergeant at arms: mr. speaker, the president of the united states! ( cheers and applause ) >> bush: terrorists who once occupied afghanistan now occupy cells at guantanamo bay. ( cheers and applause ) and this evening, we welcomed the distinguished interim leader of a liberated afghanistan, chairman hamid karzai. ( cheers and applause ) >> priest: the victory in afghanistan came so quickly, and the ball kept rolling in secret. and, by and large, it's continued in secret. >> narrator: greystone was under way well beyond

let's just say that there is a big fat zero that defines that we're also getting examine the growth of the cia from an intelligence agency and to a paramilitary operation that now just goes for the kill scott morton will join us for that what am of his speech investigative reporter radley balko about a new video that shows an examiner used by mississippi courts fabricated evidence to send a woman away for forty four years to have all of that including a dose of happy hour but first take a look at what the mainstream media has decided to me it's. all right so say the jobs numbers for the month of august came out of the months prior to this what could be called disappointing negative bad dismal pulled in august is just. now excuse my language but that's basically the only way to look at all the official unemployment numbers stated i'm point one percent the economy added exactly zero jobs last month that's right they say not one not two not even three but a big fat zero so as we always point out there of course is a difference between the official unemployment rate and the real unemployment rate

they sat in front of his fireplace and he said we need money for this group we have at the cia. e they have a mutual friend in april heaven, fizzled knew better than to as many more questions and just kind of agreed that would be all right. those funds were diverted over from the marshall plan to the cia about two years later. kissel became the support net to allen dulles. director of the cia. and area 51 was up and running. >> okay. several people want you to cut to the little men. i told annie jacobsen before we started that last time i saw -- he complained to me he wrote and it is -- a chance to read it a brilliant book on the history of the civil-rights movement and all anyone wanted to ask about was one sentence about martin luther king's personal life. there are seven pages in this book and here come the bunch of questions. what were the little men that were seen at roswell? can you comment on the ufo connection to area 51? what about the ufos and aliens? what about ufos? go for it. >> curious crowd. no one wants to hear about war weapons when there are a little green men t

team, the counter-terrorism center team, arrived. >> logan: of the cia. >> soufan: of the cia. so we told them, from our perspective, that he has been cooperating. we just got information that k.s.m. is the mastermind of 9/11. they said, "well, yeah, but there's a belief that there's a lot more information, and he's not giving it up yet." so it ended up that there's a plan already decided in washington that was basically to strategically diminish his "ability to resist," as... as the term was used. we knew that we're going down on a path that's a dangerous path, a path that we haven't been on before. so we had to pull out from the interrogation, and we had to start witnessing something that was really surprising, some technique that we never thought that we will see us doing. >> logan: the new techniques ali soufan is talking about included nudity, sleep-deprivation, and loud music. it was the beginning of the tough and controversial methods that would ultimately include water-boarding and become known as "enhanced interrogation techniques." what ali soufan witnessed, and what h

as head of the cia reflects the sentiment that is a hero according to most of the american public so you think it's a good thing that he's been put in charge is a good movie oh no i don't but i think that it reflects obama's strategy. many people have been calling the war in afghanistan a counterinsurgency war and over the last year there's been a lot of evidence that at this strategy has been shifting from counterinsurgency a population centric ground war to a kill and capture strategy and so it makes sense to put the man who headed the counterinsurgency effort now into the head of the kill capture effort i don't think that's a good idea but it does reflect the change in the obama administration's tactics and a very public emphasis on that change how do i want to what is going to bring to the party i mean to say i was very widely criticized for in secret prisons and drone attacks that claimed the lives of thousands of civilians do you think things are going to change with a new man of the hill no i certainly don't i think that. has in many ways been working with the defense departme

your criticism of the clinton that you resigned a war you were you rather dismissed from the cia ninety nine. no i resigned i was moved to a different job in may of june of one nine hundred ninety nine we had just gone through a period in the last week of may in one nine hundred ninety nine where we know we knew exactly where osama bin laden was spending the night for five consecutive nights and kandahar city and we could have killed him at any one of those nights and the president decided not to do it and i wrote a memo that said basically if we don't do this soon we're going to miss our opportunity and a lot of americans are going to die for that and that got me move to another job doing counter-narcotics until until nine eleven i resigned no more because of the failure of the nine eleven commission to find anybody responsible for anything before nine eleven and because they failed to be informed to inform the american people in their report that we're fighting people who are at war with us because of our foreign policy and its impact in their world and not because americans have wome

by 2004, the cia had completed an internal review of its program. >> the cia inspector general concluded that we cannot verify that one-- not one single, imminent threat-- was stopped because of these techniques. that's very significant. >> smith: ali soufan says that not one piece of actionable intelligence was produced by the application of enhanced interrogation techniques. >> yes, well... i mean no disrespect to mr. soufan, but there was a lot of information derived-- from k.s.m., from abu zubaydah, from the other detainees who were subjected to these techniques. again, whether that intelligence could've been derived without these techniques, i do not know. and to this day, i think it's unknowable. i believe strongly that that would not have happened, because we're talking about the most... the most hardened, the most determined, and the most knowledgeable of the al qaeda leaders. i simply can't accept that they would have succumbed to a normal question-and-answer period to provide the information they provided. >> smith: discouraged by all that he had seen, soufan would leave the fb

so level twenty six pm no your most go ahead for this interview show going off asa former chief of the cia unit which tracked down osama bin laden if the death of the al qaeda leader made the world a safer place it's a good question the answer is ahead of the headlines with me kevin. we. like millions of americans i've lost thousands of dollars in retirement funds and i haven't had as bad as many so it's not just about them it's about me to. me ma'am brahmana. missing. the. boat on. you. need it. now. since this is my film i get the last word this financial crisis will not be for and off like a light sleep. would be soon which brightened if you knew all about song from feinstein's pression is so . nice for instance on t.v. don't come. on for more scope this is arts a very good evening for me kevin o. and it's now eleven thirty pm i'll top stories russia city of heroes novels paying its last respects to the victims of wednesday's plane crash that killed almost all of the top of the voice talking to us as investigators ruled out to me. theories into the cause of the tragedy engine failure an

gen david petraeus becomes the head of the cia after a major u.s. national security reshuffle. the hague tribunal has sentenced a former yugoslav army general to twenty seven years in prison for war crimes. perry she was convicted of abetting atrocities during the balkan war in the one nine hundred ninety s. including the massacre of seven thousand muslims in chevron he was one of several ethnic serbs military officials on trial in the hague balkans political expert michael garcia says the west wants to feel guilty for the whole yugoslavia war. we know how those trials are going to go because the script for those trials has been written in advance but i think we need to look actually take a look at the real picture here of what was accused of doing because he was accused in effect of crossing. illegally declared all the borders that had been declared by the spirits by the diktats of western governments particularly germany running the e.c. at the time and subsequently by the us of a these these governments declared that yugoslavia borders would no longer exist and would be repla

cia. >> absolutely. it's dedicated to the heroes of the cia, fbi, military. when you work with somebody on the front lines and you're far away in dangerous areas, you only have each other to depend on. so many of the heroes in the book basically are cia officers from the cia officer who, you know, tried to get all the information from a detainee so the detainee cannot be rendered to a cia officer who actually walked before me out of the zubaydah interrogation and came home. he said, that's not worth it. to a cia officer in guantanamo bay who basically was a phenomenal leader in guaranteeing there is no institutional barriers between the entities down there and all of us work for uncle sam. so i have a lot of great appreciations for the men and women in the cia and we have to actually remember one thing, rachel, that it's because of the employees of the cia, the enhanced interrogation techniques and that program was shelved. it was them who went back and complained to their inspector general and a lot of complaints happened over the years. then the inspector sw

america's foremost afghanistan david petraeus is getting settled in days new role as director of the cia it's a position he's taken to come to the according to. going to crucial things but tries his actions mean he's defending the organizations outdated strategy that of pushing for reforms during the joint session of the senate and the house intelligence committee. did it get to the tenth anniversary of nine eleven attack on the united states general david petraeus the newly minted cia director and general jim clapper the director of national intelligence presented their views general petraeus from the outset emphasized that he was presenting the agency view on the terrorist threat but would look like a slip of tone it actually turned into a very successful attempt to protect the agency these regarding various cia role these. and its affiliates activities all around the world there was a high expectation of the general betray us would challenge conventional wisdom calcified theories and minds at plainly instead as the speaker of the agency he promulgated yet again ten years old views of

did it get to the tenth anniversary of nine eleven attack on the united states but general david petraeus the newly minted cia director and general jim clapper the director of national intelligence presented their views general petraeus from the outset emphasized that he was presenting the agency view on the terrorist threat but who would like innocuous slip of turn actually turned into a very successful attempt to protect the agency view regarding the cia role in these. and its affiliates activities all around the world there was a high expectation of general petraeus we challenge conventional wisdom carol supplied theories and minds plainly instead and as the speaker of the agency he promulgated yet again ten years old views of the agency and the threats and challenges there the intelligence community is facing in the united states pilot error is being blamed as the main cause of jeans the air crash in northwestern russia and the temple of on three four came down the killing nearly all on board interstate aviation committee concluded that the crew failed to go around and attempt a second landing and had to

my opinion but you said you're using the tap out of verse three of nine eleven to raise the issue of cia black sites so why is that because. you know. i think that the first priority of course is to pay respect to the victims of the attack on the united states ten years ago but then we also have at the same time to look at how the u.s. government and european governments respond to this attack and unfortunately i think there's a lot of lessons to be learned from how this war on terror so-called war on terror was conducted which allowed for very serious human rights violations which unfortunately also had the effect that terrorism has spread the militant groups have increased. the number of people killed and many of them innocent do in those ten years they also deserve some respect in this situation and therefore i think it's absolutely important that. the way we handled this gruesome attack will be under an honest discussion so that we don't repeat this in the future and speaking of the militant groups you just released a report based on your visit to russia's north caucasus which is of

of this. i was covering the cia and the intelligence community. bill arkin, a long time defense analyst, and he works on a lot of documents. he was seeing a pleat dpelethra of code names on job sites and all sorts of areas. they were not warrior, things we assign to wars but things like sky rider, pin wheel, things that didn't make sense, and there were hundreds and hundreds of them, so he was seeing this happening in his way in a very document-oriented way. i, at the same time, was uncovering a lot of the programs that were set in place among the most secret of our agencies, the cia and special operations military units, and as i learned more and more about those, those needed more and more support organizations, but as well, every unit in the military that could call itself now a counterterrorism unit or could make a case, and they didn't really need to make a very strong case, couldn't get funding from congress to try to do something about it, and i saw also a proliferation of these sort of secret organizations that frankly, you know, at the tim

head of the cia and the director of central intelligence at the time. will throw that out and they threw it out the real essence of that presentation that they preserved they being george tenet and john mclaughlin and i think under some strong influence from the vice president's office they preserved and that was the mobile logical laboratories that was the active nuclear program was symbolized by the room to us and it was the existing chemical stocks and. nachum is hard connections between al-qaeda and baghdad those were the real fault so the ads in that briefing that george tenet and john mclaughlin the representatives of not just the u.s. intelligence community but israel finance britain jordan and a host of others who were feeding intelligence into us. that's what they said was sacrosanct they said that is the case that is what saddam hussein is doing only later did we learn that even those elements of his presentation were composed of half truths false words even and i think today after doing more research outright lies lies created in the defense

they would remind us of cia prisons in other parts of the world and the conditions that iranians andthers experience in prisons in the u.s. >> the two also talked about how they heard the screams of other inmates and what they called a total sham of a trial. >>> what's happening with rick perry? two states, two republican straw polls and the presidential front-runner did not win either one of them. herman cain won the florida poll on saturday. he pretty much blew everyone away with more than 37% of the vote. perry came in second with just over 15%. the other straw poll was held in michigan. native son mitt romney blew everyone out there with 51% of the vote. perry got just under 17%. >>> a college bake sale with prices based on your race and gender. just look at this price menu. campus republicans at uc-berkeley are stirring up trouble on purpose. >> it's really there to cause people to think more critically about what this kind of policy would do in university admissions. >> the fact they humorized and mocked the struggles of people of color on this campus is very disgusting to me.

they would remind us of cia prisons in other parts of the world and the conditions that iranians and others experience in prisons in the u.s. we do not believe that such human rights violations on the part of our government justify what has been done to us. not for a moment. however, we do believe that these actions on the part of the u.s. provide an excuse for other governments, including the government of iran, to act in kind. >> we'll have more from the hikers out of new york a bit later on in this hour. >>> overseas, it is good-bye to bullfighting. at least in one part of spain. the people spoke and ended a 600 year tradition. [ male announcer ] if you're only brushing, add listerine® total care for more complete oral care. ♪ it works in six different ways to restore enamel... strengthen teeth... freshen breath... help prevent cavities... and kill bad breath germs for a whole mouth clean. so go beyond the brush with listerine® total care, the most complete mouthwash. now get all the benefits... without the alcohol. new listerine® total care zero. accept it. you can't change the w

he would remind us of cia prisons in other parts of the world this is left out of mainstream media coverage all that was mentioned was that americans were given a hard time in this prison world independent journalist has covered foreign policy for over thirty years and says modern day coverage avoids context the sordid history of iran began with the cia help overthrow the shah of iran in one nine hundred fifty three and put it in a regime that was tuned to american interests that's what the problem is and what iranians have been angry about ever since i. also angry americans out on the streets at home. with. their positions are routinely marginalized and presented as. the mainstream media authorized to ridicule and downplay true american protest and they like to think that this is just a very narrow group of people that say we're in the streets in the last couple weeks and in wall protests street protests. while applauding an arab spring uprising echoing the official stance of the american government many reporters many going to do some producers really want nothing more than to have access

over the course of the next year in 1997 he becomes financially desperate. the cia has tracked him the year before in 1996 because of a fight between the cia and the fbi league in rome of all places. the u.s. government decides to go through the formal process of extraditing him from his apartment which is supplied by the minister of religious instruction. later it becomes the interior minister. the interior is the euphemism for intelligence. here he is supported on the government payroll. the cia warned the fbi if we do this officially, threw open documents, ksm will be told he will fully. the government cannot be self-contained. however they are prepared to let us snatch him in the middle of the night. the fbi says that wouldn't be legal. how would we put him on trial? how would we explain how he came into our custody? who will arrest him? we see the beginnings of the fight to capture ksm in 1996 and the beginning of this law enforcement versus warfare debate of the war on terror which continues to this day. they take the law enforcement approach and ksm gets away