um, to put it in perspective, if you've heard of the mega church preacher rick warren or if you know of a teleadvantage list like pat robertson, how big a story would it be if one of these guys -- for whatever reason, even in the strictest self-defense -- shot and killed a person in the office? i think in this day of 24/7 news, this would be probably that casey annie who? i mean, it would make it all go away. and that's how big a story it was with the media such as it was at that time. that was a saturday. by the next morning, every newspaper in america because of wire services which is another part of the story that were just coming along got the paper out to every nook and cranny, every small paper, every large paper had a headline about this minister in texas, this ambitious leader who wanted to be the heir to william jennings bryan shooting and killing a man in his office. well, he was indicted, and he was charged with first-degree murder which meant that if he was convicted, he would have faced the electric chair. in texas. the mayor wanted to make sure that norris was convicted

to put it in his, you have heard of the mega-church preacher, rick warren or the televangelist like pat roberts. how big a story would it be -- for whatever reason, even in self-defense shot and call the person in the office, i think in this day, this would be probably kesey anthony who? airwave make it all go away. at the bigger the story it was. that was saturday. by the next morning, every newspaper in america because the wire services, which is another part of the story just coming along at the paper out to every necking creamy, every small paper, large paper had a headline about the minister in texas, this ambitious leader of shooting and killing a man in his office. he was indicted and he was charged with first-degree murder, which meant that if he was convicted he would've faced the elect kercher in texas. the mayor wanted to make sure that norris was convict did, so decided out of his pocket to hire some extra lawyers, some special prosecutors throughout the district attorney. and so, what you have in the beginning is this big legal battle that is going to come along with some o

in this case, he tried to tell cnbc viewers that he, rick perry, is smarter than warren buffett. >> i'm curious about your thoughts on the buffett rule and goes to the class warfare issue. >> well, i think it gets right down to the real problem that we've got in washington, d.c. is an administration that is listening to people who really don't have an understanding about what's going on there in the real world. >> you think warren buffett doesn't --. >> i think mr. -- i think mr. buffett is a really intelligent individual, but i can promise you, doesn't know what's going on in places that -- where the job creation is at a zero, because of overtaxation and overregulation. >> and herman cain has bravely and irrelevantly ruled out running on a ticket with rick perry. >> could you support rick perry if he were the nominee? >> today i could not support rick perry as the nominee for a host of reasons. him being soft on securing the border is one of the reasons. i feel very strongly about the need to secure the border for rio, the need to enforce the laws that are already there. that's where h

rick perry over a controversial cancer vaccine. who is right? we'll have a debate. >> right now, baron warren buffett pays a lower tax rate than his secretary. an outrage he has asked us to fix. we need a tax code where everyone gets a fair shake and where everybody pays their fair share. >> paul: welcome to the journal,editorial report. i'm paul ggigot. that was president obama with the jobs act, calling on wealthy to pay more tax toss finance them and while warren buffett may be willing to do so, at least one former ceo is not. in a rehe sent op-ed in the wall street journal, harry gallop has this message for president obama, before you ask for more money from me and others, raise what you collect each year more fairly and spend it more wisely and then you'll need less of my money. the retired ceo of american express and executive committee of the american enterprise absolute and also the chairman of miller, welcome to the program. so, text us through your argument and beef with warren buffett? >> i don't really have a beef with warren buffett. if he thinks that he's paying unfairly low tax

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rick perry has done for the interest of big business in his state. >> it's an interesting candidate, interesting story and another really interesting candidate, massachusetts elizabeth warren against scott brown and she's your guest tonight. >> that's right, first national interview after declaring on my show tonight at 9:00. i don't know how that happened. but very interesting race. scott brown got elected by a lot as a republican in a deep blue state. the entire political array if you line them up as blue and red dots, he sticks out like a sore thumb. there's this one republican and he's the senator there. massachusetts democrats are excited about the prospect of taking that away, but the climate will be tough in 2012 including a national rock star like liz beelizabeth warren. >> great to see you. thank you, rachel. >>> and inside the new york upset, the politico briefing next right here on andrea mitchell reports. but first, stephen colbert tries to squeeze out a 2012 endorsement from former vice president al gore. >> rick perry endorsed you in 1988. >> draw. >> will you return the favor right now and endorse rick perry? >> well, it would hurt him a lot in the republica

michele bachmann says, i'm quoting here now, if warren buffet believes he doesn't pay enough taxes then he should write a check today to the u.s. treasury. rick perry calls it, and i'm quoting him, bait and switch strategy that penalizes investment. mitt romney says higher taxes means fewer jobs. it's that simple. we will have much more from michele bachmann. she will be my guest here in "the situation room." that's coming up in the next hour. coming up, jack cafferty, he is here in new york. jack? >> texas governor rick perry loves to talk about all the jobs he created in texas. but that's only part of the stroir and it is a bit misleading at that. the other part of the perry job story is that nearly one in five texans in the state where the governor lives, live below the poverty line. and that poverty rate is growing fastener texas than the national average. cnn's money has a story that texas ranks six in terms of the people living in poverty. both demjanj a lot of families live a shanty housing, no electricity, no indoor plumbing. this is 2011. also, the poor in texas don't get much help. the state has one of lowest rates of spending on it

warren zivon wrote a song about this guy decades ago. what's your take on this social security showdown? >> this ping-pong match between those two. >> one, mitt romney sounds like a democrat attacking rickplined. the problem with perry, he's telling the truth on social security which i like. the fact -- but the problem is that he hasn't clarified what his position is. and he's had a couple of opportunities. >> well, he's told the truth about there being a problem with social security. but his answer is returning it to the states or just telling people under 50, you don't get it anymore. >> well, yeah. and he's -- but he's said that in the book, but he hasn't been clear on the campaign what he means by the things that he's said in the book. >> is he playing to the tea party? certain elements of the tea party that would love to hear a candidate say, let's abolish social security? >> no. >> as a federal entitlement? >> i don't think that's what he means at all. i think he thinks it needs to be reformed but he hasn't made that clear. >> do you agree with something i said -- >> he doesn't want to abolish social security and he doesn't want to take it to the states. >> why doesn't he say it?