are 16 million southern baptists. are you saying that they would be giving credibility to a cult if they vote for governor romney? >> well i have always said, john, given the choice between mitt romney and barack obama, i would vote for mitt romney. i think it is much better for those of us who are evangelical christians to have a nonchristian who embraces biblical values in the white house than to have a professing christian like barack obama who addresses and embraces up biblical positions. and so, while i am hesitant and would be at this stage, when we can choose a christian candidate for office, i do think there may come a time when it's the lesser of two evils. and so i would not say under no circumstances would i vote for mitt romney, but it was john jay, the first chief justice of the supreme court, who said we have the duty and privilege to vote and select christians as our leaders. and again, mitt romney's a good, moral person, but he done embrace historical christianity. i'm not sure why that's news. that ha

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. >>> a prominent baptist pastor says he doesn't support mitt romney because he's a mormon and mormonism is a cult. i interviewed him. you'll hear it in a few minutes. >>> legendary coach, commissioner and owner al davis has died. over the years, his oakland raiders won countless championships, including three super bowls. the commissioner says davis' impact and legacy will be forever a part of the nfl. al davis was 82 years old. >>> and anti-corporate anger keeps spreading. occupy wall street sister demonstrations have now been held in more than a dozen stays across the country, including chicago, philly, austin and chapel hill, north carolina. protesters are taking on a number of issues. >>> halfway around the world, thousands of michael jackson fans are attending a tribute concert in wales today. the pop icon's three children are attending it also. several of jackson's siblings are performing. it comes as jackson's physician stands trial for involuntary manslaughter in the singer's death. for the first time this week, we heard dr. conrad murray's interview with detectives. >> everythi

the guy from the first baptist church says something.on't know in the end how much this plays with the voter. i don't know that senator lieberman would be in on the ticket in 2000 made anything that could have helped. i think that we tend to pay a lot more -- the big problem romney has, the republicans don't like him. he can't move a number. he can't win a straw vote. they just are dying to get somebody else that looks like they'll to have take him to the prom. this problem is not his faithful his problem is that by and large, a huge swath of the republicans are very skeptical about him being a nominee. that's what he will have to overcome. >> is that the issue? james makes an interesting point. if you look at the national polling. they aren't worth very much once we get to iowa and south carolina. for now you look to see where he is. he's been in the mid 20s just forever. just a flat line. if it were an ekg, we would be worried. why cannot he grow? what is the issue? >> i think two thing. one is if you look at the iowa and the new hamps

one name synonymous with act michl is the ebenezer baptist church under the helm of dr.ing jr. it is a church known for its leadership and that isn't about to change any time soon. >> this image of dr. martin luther king jr. delivering his passionate, fiery speeches from the pulpit of ebenezer baptist church is seared into americans' memories of the civil rights era. >> i like to say that ebenezer baptist church was born to fly. martin luther king jr. is a part of that long tradition. but while dr. king was freedom's voice, i think it is important to emphasize that he was a part of a long freedom train. >> reporter: dr. rar yell warnot is only the fifth senior pastor in ebenezebenezer's 125-year hi. he says every one of them has a track record linked to dr. king's legacy. >> his maternal grandfather -- the second pastor of this church, a.d. williams, was an activist in his own right. his father, martin luther king sr., was also an activist. we remember the voting rights law of 1965. what fewer people know is that in 1935, martin luther king sr. engaged a voting rights ca

baptists. >> yes. mitt romney last won a general election in the very non-mormon but tolerant state of massachusetts. and i think he's discovering that this issue which he tried to put to bed in 2007 is not going anywhere. and you can tell to the extent that it's sort of embedded in this contest by looking at what michele bachmann, who i used to work for, and herman cain said this very weekend when asked about this. they would not denounce these remarks as bigotry or intolerant the way that ed just admirably did so. they don't want to touch this, because i think mormonism has become the third rail of the gop presidential primary. >> over the weekend, many of the presidential candidates were asked about pastor jeffress' comments, but most dodged -- this is key -- most dodged the question. here was herman cain on cnn yesterday. let's watch. >> i'm not running for theologian in chief. i'm a lifelong christian, and what that means is, one of my guiding principles for the decisions i make is i start with do

all of us are sinners, not just mormons, baptist, anglicans. we have all sinned.have all fallen short of the glory of god. we all need to jesus christ to be our savior. >> can you imagining america tolerating an atheist president? >> absolutely can. i think that is very possible. >> aia jew? >> yes. >> a muslim? >> yes. >> all these things are possible? >> absolutely. article 6 says there shall be no religious test to hold public office. i'm quick to remind people that that refers to government cannot impose a religious litmus test parent that has nothing to do about private citizens deciding to choose a candidate based on their religions. we have every right to do so. the first chief justice of the supreme court, john j., who was the author of the federalist papers said, "we have a duty and privilege in this christian nation to select and prefer christians as our leaders." the first chief justice of the that is states believed it was not bigoted to say it is right for christians over non christians. >> thank you for joining us. the arabs bring spread optimism and

very well aware of a little message for them but if you don't remember who the westboro westboro baptist church is here's a nice little reminder. to the every man to warn his neighbor this is taking down that's what love thy neighbor mean the purpose of his beginning is not to marry anybody it is to condemn the world like no they went up there and you're. all right so they're hateful people they go to protest at soldiers' funerals all the time because they think that god is punishing us for allowing homosexuality in the country and they announced via twitter that it was so the a.p. tweeted the apple co-founder steve jobs has died at fifty six and the one has for about just tweeted to them westboro will picket his funeral he had a huge platform god gave god no glory and talked sin but i just find it just a little weird that westboro was using all the technology i mean because most significantly made this amount announcement on twitter and i found if you can put it back up it's a case where the bottom says twitter. i mean really come on do you think if you went out that they're going to pi

marks all out from hank williams jr comparing president obama hitler plus of the way for westboro baptist church announced their plans for protests to johnson's funeral a little ironic that cannot. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime break. i think the rock the bombings readable and on the well. we never got the live shows there to keep them safe get ready because you give them your freedom. get some closure see the story of the scene so you think you understand it and then you live something else here's some of the part of it and realize that everything is just you know you don't. charge is a big. he just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old i just you know lived through. it. because that's an environment where all get a friend says i love rap and hip hop music and pretty. but it was kind of yesterday. i'm very proud of the world with its place. and five are tied to a time of war and i'm just a g.o.p. lawmakers in georgia who passed a tough new immigration law just this year it was a story we've been following for several months and we actually predicted that t

as a friend, agreed to meet us here at historic ebenezer baptist church in downtown atlanta.nd for this exclusive and extraordinary reunion, we met in the basement of ebenezer baptist, where many of the civil rights planning sessions took place. ♪ they all have their own unique memories of dr. martin luther king jr. they were all part of his inner circle, his think tank, his civil rights family. we met with this unique group on the first floor of the historic ebenezer baptist church, where many of the movement's planning meetings were held. >> oh, it was just soon as i walked in, i was reliving the story thanks to reverend jackson. he tells the story every year. i can always tell where he's speaking because he tells the story that right here in this room was dr. king's last birthday. and somehow when i walked in here this morning i felt that recapitulation of what happened that night. >> reporter: xernona clayton was one of the chief organizers of events for king's organization, the southern christian leadership conference. and perhaps more importantly, clayton was one of the

he is the head of the first baptist church of dallas.cause of something he said about mitt romney. he actually said that mitt romney is a part of a cult. now, our jim acosta is there at that values voter summit for us. you pick up the story from there, if you would, jim. >> reporter: well, tj, it's a difficult story to tell, because it is so very complicated. but basically, here's how it goes. yesterday, here at the values voter summit, that pastor that you mentioned, robert jeffers from first baptist church of dallas was giving the introductory comments for rick perry. pastor jeffers is an endorser of rick perry, wants to see him elected president. and it was during these introductory comments that pastor jeffers said very interesting. he said, quote, do we want a candidate who is a good moral person or do we want a candidate who is a born-again follower of jesus christ? that was a not so subtle dig at mitt romney. and so when pastor jeffers walked out of the ballroom, he was peppered by reporters with questions about what exactly demea

the pastor of the first baptist church of dallas. gave a speech introducing rick perry and if you don't mind me saying, you've created a bit of a stir coming out of that speech because in talking to reporters, you said in pretty strong, plain language what you think of mormonism. you described it as a cult and you said that if republican votes for mitt romney, they're giving some credibility to a cult. do you stand by that comment? >> absolutely. that's not some fanatical. that's been the -- southern baptist convention has officially labeled mormonism as a cult. i think mitt romney's a good, moral man, but those of us who are born again followers of christ should prefer a competent christian that's why i'm enthusiastic about perry. >> what do you say to those voters who said religion as mormonism shouldn't be an issue. he's just as american as anyone else. >> i aglee and article 6 of the constitution -- >> and mormons do say they are christians. they believe in jesus christ. >> a lot of people say they're christians and they're not.

. >> most baptist believe -- most baptists believe that the bible is true as it is written. >> therere some who see mormons as a cult. ♪ >> for 1.5 centuries, mormons have been outside the american mainstream, even as they ascend to the peaks of business and politics. mitt romney is reaching for the summit, his fate may be his undoing. if the succeeds, a great american tabloid will be broken. -- taboo will be broken. >> to a problem plaguing millions of blackberry users around the globe. the devices are supposed to keep us connected at all times. here is our technology correspondent. >> for 48 hours or more, blackberry users have been struggling to stay in touch. what has embraced many intel little the company has told about what is wrong. high-profile customers have been making their feelings known. the former spin doctor alistair campbell wants to know exactly what was going on. others have said it is hurting their businesses. blackberry users said they depend on being in touch at all times. today's is far too long to be disconnected. research in motion blames its problems on the b

. >> most baptist believe -- most baptists believe that the bible is true as it is written. >> therere some who see mormons as a cult. ♪ >> for 1.5 centuries, mormons have been outside the american mainstream, even as they ascend to the peaks of business and politics. mitt romney is reaching for the summit, his fate may be his undoing. if the succeeds, a great american tabloid will be broken. -- taboo will be broken. >> to a problem plaguing millions of blackberry users around the globe. the devices are supposed to keep us connected at all times. here is our technology correspondent. >> for 48 hours or more, blackberry users have been struggling to stay in touch. what has embraced many intel little the company has told about what is wrong. high-profile customers have been making their feelings known. the former spin doctor alistair campbell wants to know exactly what was going on. others have said it is hurting their businesses. blackberry users said they depend on being in touch at all times. today's is far too long to be disconnected. research in motion blames its problems on the b

i know southern baptists that support romney, some support perry, some southern baptists support every one of the candidates except the governor of new mexico. >> all right. thank you very much, richard land. >>> coming up, massive clashes in cairo as frustration erupts over last of progress since mubarak's ouster. this is andrea mill he will reporting on msnbc. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool msnbc. aitl reporting on msnbc. cl reporting on msnbc. hl reporting on msnbc. on msnbc. l reporting on msnbc. wouldn't it be cool if your car could handle the kids... ♪ ...and the nurburgring? or what if you built a car in tennessee that could change the world? yeah, that would be cool. nissan. innovation for today. innovation for tomorrow. innovation for all. ♪ she's supporting breast cancer programs for her neighbour's tennis instructor's daughter's 1st grade teacher who's also her mom. help fund breast cancer programs in your community. redeem your lids today rx plan gives you the lowest plan premium in the country... so you can focus on what really matters. call humana at 1-800-808-400

what about baptists and catholics? they got different views on the papacy, for example, and the purgatory. what about infant baptism, which is important to baptists? should this be the standard by which we judge whether or not somebody is a true christian. this was a terrible mistake on the part of the pastor. it's the kind of thing that doesn't belong in politics. we want our candidates and leaders to be people of faith, but we don't get into and we haven't gotten into since at least the 1960 presidential election into a determination over whether or not somebody is professed faith is acceptable to the vast majority of americans. >> laura: when you think about perry here, he's had real problems in the past few debates, obviously we've talked about that. but for him to be sandbagged with the statement of this particular pastor, that seems incredibly unfair to me. and i guess his people should have maybe done better advance work and they should have chosen the clear person who was going to introduce him and vetted his c

controversy after a baptist minister called romney's mormon faith a cult. >> a showdown at the value voters summit. mitt romney speak was highly anticipated following comments from the tax is passed on to says christians should not vote for romney because he is a mormon. romney through a few small budgets. >> we must respect religious values, not silence them. will always pledged our allegiance to a nation that is under god. >> robbery did stand by his fateith. >> decency and civility and things listed in value. poison is a language does not advance our cause. >> religion was not the only topic on the table. decanted tackled other major issues like unemployment and the economy. one thing they agree on, it is time for a new commander in chief. >> we were on the right track at one time, let's get back on the track and restored liberty, prosperity and peace. >> if you will be with me, together, we will decisively defeat barack obama and over the next few years, we will decisively reclaim america as the land of the three into the home of the great. >> shelby lynn, kron4 news. >>vicki: ba

he's a baptist minister he said he can win the conservative vote. >> he is in a jam. i think he knew this might come up. >> i think he's going back on his campaign when he said he had some miss steps as we know. he thinks some of the miss steps were the result of lack of breadth and also they are planning on em bolding their campaign. but you know geraldo he have to expect something like this where you have the big target on your back as you have said. he knows they are stunting for him this is obviously that's whaping. i don't know if these allegations are true if they are it's a shame and he will have to answer to them. >> ann coulter big deal not so big? >> it's outrageous the way liberals treat a black conservative. this is another high-tech -- >> in the words of clarence thomas. >> nothing people fear more than a black. look at the allegations shows you how the civil rights juggernaut has gone off the rails. the idea of civil rights laws to begin with ironically was to protect blacks from democrats from the south who won't protect them. now white women from scars

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>> a courageous, a new movie from sherwood baptist church, tackles the theme of father hood and what it means to be a real man in today's world. wendy griffith was at the premier in atlanta. >> the stars have come out for the premier of " courageous.". >> i loved it. i am so excited for the good work these films are going to do is stay strong and stay together. >> sheriff's office, we have a warrant for your arrest. alex kendrick co wrote and directed the movie stars as one of the police officers who struggles to connect with his teena teenage son at home. >> we hope to communicate to dads, what makes them feel loved? quality time? a gift? verbal affirmation? for me to learn how each of my six children feel loved. if i can capture their heart, they'll listen to me. >> alex's brother stephen who co-wrote says courageous has the potential to change lives for generations to come. >> we want men to be inspired. there is a closing speech. men feel that call. i want to be strong and courageous for my family. >> actor kevin down plays a cop that struggles to make the right decision says the

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prominent baptist pastor robert jeffers who backs republican rick perry told reporters at the event that mitt romney shouldn't be the gop nominee because he's mormon, which the the pastor says is a cult. jeffers stood by those comments later during an interview with our political correspondent, jim acosta. >> the southern baptist convention, which is the largest protestant denomination in the world has labeled mormonism as a cult. i think mitt romney is a good moral man. i think we should prefer a competent christian to a competent -- to a competent non-christian like mitt romney. >> well, pastor robert jeffers joins me live from washington. did rick perry know what you were going to say when you introduced him? >> no, not at all. neither he nor his advance team had any indication of what i was going to say in the introduction. by the way, in my introduction, as you accurately noted, i did not say anything about cults or mormonism or didn't mention mitt romney by name. all this came about as a result of reporters' questions after the introduction, in which one reporter asked me why i per

." >> the southern baptist convention, which is the largest protestant denonnation in the world is a cult. i think he's a good moral man but those of us who are good followers of christ should prefer a competent christian to a competent nonchristian like mitt romney. >> well, reverend jeffress leaves a huge baptist church and we should note that he also supports romney's rival, rick perry, for president. bill bennett today joined the debate, linking the minister's comments about romney and mormonism to bigotry and questioning the pastor's political wisdom. >> and i would say to pastor jeffress, you stepped on and obscured the words of perry and santorum and cain and bachmann and everyone else who has spoken here. you did rick perry no good, sir, in what you had to say. >> after romney it was perry's turn. he called for a truce in this debate but did address the speaker who would follow him and who has criticized his faith in the past. >> poisonous language does not advance our cause. it's never softened our heart or changed a single mind. the question of faith carry the simple and de

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. >> dallas baptist preacher jefferies made the remarks. romney did not address the traversing, he took aim at another speaker. >> we should remember that decency is a value as well. >> bill bennett called jefferies out. >> you didn't read. no good, sir, and what you had to say. -- you did rick perry no good. >> standby for steve jobs -- the movie. also, a big message on benz health and advice on the prostate screening controversy. >> we are trying to show support for her. >> on day 44 the search of a missing baby, the girl's parents are back talking to people -- to police. >> we picked up with a big message on ben's health. eating healthy and routine screenings are key. the point was made at the event is sponsored by the american cancer society where they stress the importance of communicating with your doctor. >> there is a lot of different health issues and risks. a lot of it boils down to seeing a doctor. the exercise, healthy diet, don't use tobacco. would you go to the doctor, ask him about cancer tests we need to get at your age. >>

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the controversy intensified when a baptist church pastor called rick perry a true christian and declared or mitt romney on foot for office because he is mormon. he denounced poisonous language about facebook -- mitt romney denounced poisonous language about faith. >> the fact we are spending so much time discussing it and makes it even worse. >> we will have a lot more on the campaign including new poll numbers that show one candidate surging. that's at 5:00. >>> time for a check on the business headlines. linda bell at bloomberg headquarters in new york. good morning. >> good morning. most americans say that the wealthy people should pay more in taxes. more than two thirds including a majority of republicans say the rich should kick in more to bring down the budget deficit. that's according to a new poll. that could resonate with president obama presidentwho suggested a millionaire's surtax to pay for his jobs plan. he will be in pittsburgh pitching that today. senate democrats will try to bring the plan to ethe floor for test vote today. occupy wall street protesters will be marching p

john the baptist school in silver spring.ays her science assignment this week is to ask us a question so she wants to know how are the average temperatures and precipitations calculated and how often are they updated? excellent question. >> can we give a big shout out to st. john the baptist school because each one asked us a question. so we have about 20 questions. >>> are you talking about the average over one day? >> we don't know exactly but we can talk about both. >> here is how it works. we have take a daily measurement of the temperature, the high and the low and the amount of precipitation we get at the local airports. those are the measuring stations here. bwi marshall and rig national and dut less. we take -- and dulles. we can take today's date and he we can look at the last 100 years and we can divide. >> one high, one low, one precipitation total for every october 17th. >> that is how you do it on a daily basis. on a long-term scale, we take measurements for 30 years. can you explain more on that. but now i'm con

baptist poster robert jeffries' controversial comments at the values voters summit in washington this weekend. well, it's got a lot of folks still talking about it. so today's talk back question, should a candidate's religion matter? carol costello is joining us from new york. carol, covering president obama certainly a lot of people made a big deal about what his faith was, how he practiced it, his preacher who was involved in his faith. it seems like this is kind of fodder for everybody. >> yeah, it happens every election time, doesn't it? kind of expected this, didn't you? mitt romney's mormon faith may now sink his campaign. conservative christians important in a republican primary never did quite embrace romney or his faith. listen to what evangelical preacher robert jeffress said at the values voters summit. >> southern baptist convention, which is the largest protestant denomination in the world, has officially labeled mormonism as a cult. i think that romney is a good moral man, but i think those of us who are born again followers of christ should always prefer a competent chr