remember, remember, remember our old pal brian fisher? serve in the u.s. military and we have got to raise questions about who we can afford to allow muslims to emigrate into the united states at all. president barack obama nurtures a hatred for the united states of america and the white man. i do question the patriotism of groups like planned parenthood. they're subverting morality. liberals in the united states of america hate the declaration of independence. counterfeit religions, alternative religions to christianity have no first amendment right to the free exercise of religion. permits, in my judgment, should not be granted to build even one more mosque in the united states of america. not one. ladies and gentlemen, we are going to have to choose as a nation between the homosexual agenda and freedom. because the two cannot co-exist. >> that last bit about the homosexual agenda being at odds with freedom, that came from brian fisher's speech at last year's values voter summit. this year's scheduled lineup, again, lists mitt romney fo

romney was talking about the man who say on stage right now, brian fisher.e is with the american family association, that is a prominent social conservative organization. it's also the organization that was involved with rick perry for that prayer event that was held in august called the response. you'll remember that, t.j. and brian fisher, i just heard a few moments of his speech just a little bit ago where he said that -- he basically said that the country needs a true christian in the white house again, taking a dig at mitt romney, saying mitt romney is not a true christian. i want to say mitt romney did sort of address this controversy in his speech. i don't know if you saw that or heard that at the beginning of the speech, t.j. mitt romney said bill bennet, the speaker before romney, bill bennet went after that pastor in that speech, strongly condemning those remarks and reminded the voters here at this summit that george washington believed in religious freedom. so bill bennet went right after this contcontroversy. and when romney got up to give his s

that would be the director of issues analysis for the american family association, brian fisher. turns out he has a long history of bashing the candidate's mormon faith. let's listen to his comments from earlier this week. >> mormonism is not an orthodox christian faith. it's just not. it was very clear that the founding fathers did not intend to preserve automatically religious liberty for nonchristian faiths. so when mormonism came along, they practiced polygamy. they believed in polygamy, just like muslims do today. >> well, the only person who ought to be embarrassed by that statement or any of this awkwardness is the man who made that statement. religious liberty in this country is religious liberty. simple. that's all for "hardball." up next, "your business." e. man: yes it was. so to save some money, we taught our 5 year old how to dunk. woman: scholarship! woman: honey go get him. anncr: there's an easier way to save. get online. go to geico.com. get a quote. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. prego?! but i've been buying ragu for years. [ thinking ]

. >> romney accused brian fisher of the american family association of crossing the line about his mormon beliefs. >> mormonism is outside the mainstream of christian. that's not majority. that's not a slam. that's just a statement of objective historical fact. >> fisher's comments came a day after rick perry supporter, preacher robert said, he would not vote for romney because he's a mormon. >> historic christianity has always treated mormonism as a cult. it does not embrace christianity. >> he introduced perry at the washington gathering. the texas governor was asked about the minister's cult remark friday. >> mormonism a cult? >> no. >> a cbs news poll reveals 42% of white evangelicals said most people they know wouldn't vote for a mormon. during the primary in 2008, evangelicals made up 44% of a republican voters. >> there are some things that concern me about that religion. >> i don't think it should be an issue. >> perry avoided religion questions and instead stayed on point, talking about immigration and the economy. cbs news. >>> this isn't the first time romney's religious belief

that would be the director of issues analysis for the american family association, brian fisher. turns out he has a long history of bashing the candidate's mormon faith. let's listen to his comments from earlier this week. >> mormonism is not an orthodox christian faith. it's just not. it was very clear that the founding fathers did not intend to preserve automatically religious liberty for non-christian faiths. so when mormonism came along, they practiced polygamy. they believed in polygamy, just like muslims do today. >> well, the only person who ought to be embarrassed by that statement or any of this awkwardness statement, is the man who made that statement. religious liberty in this country is religious liberty. simple. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. up next. the "i'll sleep when it's done" academic. for 80 years, we've been inspired by you. and we've been honored to walk with you to help you get where you want to be. ♪ because your moment is now. let nothing stand in your way. learn more at keller.edu. her morning begins with arthritis pain. that's a c

. >> of what they did stand by his bay, taking aim at another speaker, a conservative leader, brian fisher. >> we should remember that decency and disability our values as well, one that speakers to follow me today has crossed that line. poisoned language does not advance our cause. >> if several people spoke at a political conference and religion is not the only topic on the table. they tackled unemployment and the economy. one thing they all agreed on, it is time for a new commander in chief. >> we were on the right track at one time, let's get back on that track and restored liberty to this country and prosperity and peace. >> if you will be with me, together, we will decisively defeat barack obama and over the next few years, decisively reclaim america as the land of the free into the home of the great. >> sell the land, kron4 is. >> temperatures are cleared of again for tonight. if bed-upper forties for the north bay. i will let you know what is going to be like for tomorrow coming know what is going to be like for tomorrow coming up. storewide! unlike other stores, we don't make you

. >> romney took aim at another speaker of the summit conservative leader brian fisher who has publiclyt decency incivility our values to, one of the speakers to follow me today have crossed that line i think. >> several of the gop hopefuls spoke at the annual political conference and religion is not the only topic on the table. they tackled unemployment in the economy and one thing they all agree on is time for a new commander in chief pierre >> we work on track at one time for store liberty to this country and peace. >> we will decisively defeat president barack obama and over the next few years we will decisively reclaim america as the land of the free and the home of the brave. >> republican readers have tentatively agreed to hold to their caucuses on jan. start next year leaving new hampshire as the only on subtletyon schedule it. on schedule on schedule to president barack obama pushed for a senate passage of his $252 billion jobs bill to honor $50 billion jobs bill today. this is what independent economists have said, not just people in my administration, independent experts to d

later on in his speech, mitt romney had something else to say about a gentleman by the name of brian fisher with the american family association. he's another prominent social conservative who has criticized mormonism and mitt romney said that poisonous language, in his words, does not advance our cause and has never softened a single heart nor changed a single mind. just for a brief few moments, mitt romney talked about his faith. here is what he had to say. >> our heritage of religious faith and sole rans has importantly shaped who we become as a people. we must continue to welcome faith into the public square and allow it to flourish. our government -- our government must respect religious values, not silence them. we will always pledge our allegiance to a nation that is under god. >> now, the romney campaign, those that are close to mitt romney and the candidate himself, t.j., all thought they had dealt with this back in 2008 when the former massachusetts governor ran for president, he gave a big speech at texas a& m talking about his faith and trying to put this behind him. but make no

and so as we see the real -- i mean, the brian fishers of the real, the real fringe of the movement essentially become mainstream figures in republican politics, is there not a cost to be paid for that in the long run? >> there is. interestingly enough, that transition of a relatively well organized but undoubtedly small minority within a kind of big party like the gop is, suddenly becoming central to deciding who the republicans will actually put up as a presidential candidate. someone who's going to have to appeal across a broad range. that's actually exactly what much of the american left has been trying to figure out how to do in the democratic party, right? how do we get sort of a set of questions or issues on the agenda that can be hammered home over and over again? the democratic presidential candidates in a way that would force them to have the sort of progressive agenda at the same time that they were running for president of the united states? and the fact is that much of the left has been unable to do that. on the right, over the course of the past 25 years, they've been incredibly e

and brian fisher of the american family association said "cain's position could have come right out ofarenthood playbook. herman cain, the more we learn, the more concerned we become. >> wow. you know, ron, herman cain sounds like my dad used to talk. yeah, i'm pro-life, but it's up to the woman. he thinks he's pro-life, because it sounds better. >> that's exactly right. he has to be pro-life. listen, he's not a serious political candidate, but the fact that we're talking about herman cain as a potentiality front-runner in the republican primaries points to the paucity of the republican field. if you squint your eyes real hard, mitt romney looks like he maybe be sort of president, but none of the other people look like they belong anywhere near the oval office. it's really striking. >> last word from you. do you agree with that? this is a weak field. >> unbelievably, and i'm waiting for santorum to make his surge, maybe gary johnson? i don't know. >> i've watched the luck of barack obama all my life -- since he started, he's had no real opponent except for alan keyes. hillary took the

and brian fisher of the american family association said, "cain's position could have come right outthe planned parenthood playbook." herman cain. the more we learn, the more concerned we become. >> wow. you know, ron, herman cain sounds like my dad used to talk. yeah, i'm pro life, but it's up to the woman. >> exactly. >> i'm not sure he's unlike so many people -- i mean, he's pro choice. but he thinks he's pro life because that sounds better. >> that's exactly right. he has to be pro life because he's running as a republican here. listen, he's not a serious political candidate. but the fact that we're talking about herman cain as a potential front-runner in the republican primaries here points to the paucity of the republican field. i mean, i guess if you squint your eyes real hard, mitt romney looks like he could maybe sort of be president. but none of the other people in this fight look like they belong anywhere near the oval office. it's really striking. >> last word from you. would you agree with that? this is a weak field. >> well, unbelievably. and i'm waiting for rick santor

. >> romney did stand by his state, taking aim at another speaker, a conservative leader brian fisheras publicly criticized warming is an. >> decency and stability are values. one speaker that has called me today has crossed that line. if it pleases language does not advance our cause. >> several hopefuls spoke at a political conference. religion was not the only topic on the table. if the candidates tackled unemployment in the economy. one thing they all agreed on, it is time for a new commander in chief. >> we were on the right track at one time. let's get back on that track and restored liberty to this country and prosperity and peace. >> if you will be with me, together, we will decisively defeat barack obama and over the next few years, we will decisively reclaim america as the land of the free and the home of the great. >> shelby lynn, kron4 news. >>ysabel: ron pohl was the winner of the values straw poll. we will continue to look at the republican side of the dial as they get ready for the 2012 elections. >>ysabel: parents in alabama say they're terrified by the state's strict

host: wheng things like this come out what brian fisher says and the controversy surrounding governorry, does it make it more difficult for the frc to go out and recruit supporters who will sign on to be part of the movement and to work in this kind of a political organization? guest: well, i think what we need to do in those situations is make it make a sil purse out of a pig's ear in that we can use these opportunities to share about the religion, differing religions, differing values that we have. i grew up in a small town in upstate new york and i thought there were only two religions growing up, irish roman catholic and italian roman catholic and i was happy to be educated differently after that. so we should look at these -- i hope they happen less but we should look at these as educational opportunities. host: our next call comes from fort lauderdale, flay. martha on our line for democrats. caller: i had a comment in reference to many of the previous callers on voters. and i feel that as a young person who has graduated college, who has made the investment in my education and c