. >> deputy city attorney, cheryl adams. i think it is reasonable to discuss alternatives within the scope of said the proposal. supervisor campos: ok, go ahead. >> i appreciate your comments. you're right, the devil is in the details. we're working hard to put something on paper. supervisor farrell asked me to speak about this broadly. the mayor is of mind that in order to provide help taxes, which is the ultimate goal, you could use and the like this, make deposits into hra's . vocable -- make them. vocable. during the 18 months, an eerie vocable expense. the office of labor enforcement would conduct a series of interviews with employees and a service to its employees to understand what they think their benefits are, why they are or are not accepting the benefits. similarly, the labor enforcement would change its survey that it sent to all employers, to ask a number of questions. a few use an hra, do you allow for that to be drawn down to pay for help the san francisco are to pay for private insurance? then a series of oth