that donovan had. donovan lobbied through surrogates to try and make himself cia director, but truman had no part of that particularly because donovan said nasty things about him on the presidential campaign trail. eisenhower is in off in 1953, donovan thinks he has the best chance to become cia director. ice was a republican, thought a lot of his work in europe, and instead eisenhower makes dulles the director. that makes donovan disappointed thinking dulles would mess it up. he 4 done a terrific job, but dulles thought donovan had done a lousy job of running the oss and he could run it better. let me end it there. we can talk about his life afterwards or anything else you want to discuss, his legacy, and what you see today in modern cia. [applause] >> i'm max gross. i read quite a few books about the oss and about donovan, and one thing i never understood, and you didn't bring it out yourself -- >> right. >> there's no intelligence oversight committee. i had never known congress' role regarding the o

donovan was heartwarming. churchill supplied a british plane to fly him around the region and he had british military escorts with him to open doors for him and keep an eye on what he was doing and report back to london. one of them was even fleming, the novelist of the james bond novels. the state department, however, wasn't pleased with this mission. here you have an american citizen who had no diplomatic standing in the american government for the british government's strong arming balkan leaders behind closed doors. the state department at one point investigated whether donovan should be prosecuted for violating -- a crime for a u.s. citizen to negotiate on behalf of the u.s. government. roosevelt was only too happy to have donovan out there freelancing. keep in mind in 1940 even into 41, roosevelt had no foreign intelligence service to speak of. you have the army and navy had small foreign intelligence units but they dumping grounds for poor performing officers. roosevelt is making major foreign policy de

la federacion confirmo a edson buddle como el remplazo de landon donovan.fue escogido como el jugador de la semana de la mls de la jornada 29 despuÉs de anotar un 'hat-trick'. el mediocampista guatemalteco liderÓ a su equipo a tres puntos de la Última posicio Ón de clasificacion a los playoffs despuÉs del triunfo y el empate 1-1 contra houston dynamo el sÁbado. para pappa, sus ocho tantos esta temporada es la mayor cantidad de goles que ha anotado para el club desde su llegada en 2008 y lo convierte en el segundo goleador del equipo. el viernes sera una kilometrica jornada de futbol camino al mundial, ecuador recibe en su patio en la priemera fecha de la conmebol a venezuela, al respecto habla su tenico, reinaldo rueda. hasta aqui los deportes mas esta noche solo a las once.

but as kobach to john donovan. -- let us go back to john donovan.oners have crossed into gaza now. somewhere in the distance, a few hundred meters behind me, they will be driven year into the square. they will lead to their relatives who are all around the square. they will have celebration, a lot of emotion here. these people are returning as heroes. >> a number of them having to go straight on. they will not be going back to gaza or the west bank but turkey. >> can you repeat that? >> i was making the point that some of them will not be able to return home. they will be deported and moving on to other countries, notably where hamas compromised where they did this deal in the past. some would be sent to countries such as turkey and possibly syria. they also mentioned catarrqatar. zvl-0;3óçw3t(çç?; ofw3e moved to bank. wtñ?ñ?ñ?ñfamilies from the westl not be able to get into gaza tuesday the prisoners. >> we will report as soon as that movement happens. 5"v)rái?;?ççoÑdg[jtyÑsc=4xcd you. israeli.yñ?ñ?ñ? ceo and foundee israel palestine cent

donovan to my district and he said he had the answer. clearly he didn't.tonight in the statistics that your statistics don't lie. he didn't understand what you are talking about, a former realtor and businessman, i think i know what i was talking about. >> i'm going to give you a chance to respond to that. were you too arrogant? >> well, look at the facts of where the housing market was when the president came into office. housing prices have been dropping for 30 straight months. the housing market was literally falling off a cliff. and we have stabilized the housing market. housing prices have been roughly flat since the president came in. and let's look at where foreclosures are. a year ago they were more than a third higher than today. so are we making progress? yes. have we helped to stabilize the market? there's no question, but as the president said, he's frustrated, i'm frustrated, there's more that we need to do. what we a announced is part of the step to move forward, but we also need congress to act. one of the things the president talked about i

donovan mcnabb. we knew it was going to happen at some point or maybe we didn't but might have suspected donovan mcnabb would eventually get the hook that the minnesota vikings weren't doing well and that is exactly what happened. mcnabb benched in minnesota in favor of rookie first round draft pick christian ponder out of florida state. ironically, mcmabe coming off his best performance of the season. the only problem, it was in a 29-point loss and his minnesota vikings now 1-5 on the year. meanwhile oakland looking for a new quarterback after losing jason campbell to a broken collar bone. campbell had surgery yesterday and the best case scenario is that he's back in six weeks. the raiders didn't just find a replacement. they paid a king's ransom for him. the raiders sent a first and a second-round pick to the bengals for carson palmer. palmer, if you remember, has refused to play in cincinnati so he wasn't playing anywhere. just sitting out and the raiders gave up two -- a conditional first-round p

la seleccion de las barras y las estrellas no contara con su capitan, landon donovan quien se encuentraon que entrena klisman despues de este sabado viaja nueva york porque el martes se medira a ecuador. en argentina lionel messi ya estena al parejo con la seleccion albiceleste para el primer partido de clasificacion al mundial de brasil por la conmebol, hablo la pulgo en ezeiza. vamos ahora con horacio geofre que nos tiene el automovilismo. a nivel local por la liga internacional de maryland anoche en partidos de cuartos de final ida, stores intenrational empato 1-1 con puerto viejo y el salvador supero 3-1 a las culebras 1. para hoy en la escuela high point, dentro de unos minutos la chapin frente a estrella roja y las 8.30 los protros contra mar y plata. hasta aqui los deportes tendremos mas esta noche solo a las once.

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salvation army, and our chinese community development corporation, our hud, which expressed to sean donovan some time ago that there were making great strides and efforts to make sure that there was going to be more housing targeted for our veterans. we have been doing that right at the local level. some years ago, we began with the veterans academy, 102 units built in the presidio. now, today, san francisco, through our project always connect that created the veterans connect, a very dedicated, focused out reach on our veterans to make sure they know how to connect up with all of our services. social services, mental services, health services, housing, and appointment. just last year, we started the veterans portal, which would connect to one of our most in the city, our 311. wherever it can just make a call and online, and all the services are set together so you can navigate. not physically trying to run around to look or things are, but it is all in one portal, you can find all the services. that is a tremendous contribution. and then today, as we speak, we're building a 75-unit partner

donovan says: "these policies set by agencies, not it on institutions that simply cannot as a matterjohn jennins - sent his own letter - in which he speak on campus in 2009 - an event jenkkns - had hoped would foster a discussion on issues offlife.ooama says: " let's honor the conscience f those whh disagree with abortion, and draft a sensible conscience clause..." but jenkinsssays the administra protect pro-life interests - in part - by crafting the employer" much ooonarrowly - "notre dame and nearly all catholic cooleges and universities would not be considered religious employers. may i suugest that this is not the ind of "sensible" approach the president had in mind when he spoke here." the department oo health and human seevices says áquoteá"we ... definitions off"reeigious organizations that have - religious bjections to covering contraceptioo can choose whether or not to cover these serrices." some analysts warn that even if a university is founded as a religious institution - once itthires employees and invites students who do ánot share the same faith - the exemption is lost

por la reaccion de rafa marquez de red bulls que le tiro le tiro la pelota a landon donovan, posteriormentearbitro se vio obligado a expulsar juninho y rafa marquez. ambos no podran ver accion en al partido de vuelta en el home depot center. en filadelfia, el dynamo de houston tambien logro un buen resultado de visita, al superar 2-1 al union, los goles fueron anotados por andrew hainault recien a los 5 minutos de juego, el empate llego con sebastien le toux a los 7 y sobre los 30 minutos aparecio calen carr para dale la victoria a dynamo 2-1. en colorado, otro equipo de visita que gana, el sporting de kansas city doblego 2-0 a los locales del rapids que no pudieron ante su publico. abrio el marcador teal bunbury a los 49 de tiempo corrido, y el mismo teal bunbury cerro la cuenta a los 59 para la victoria de houston dynamo 2-0. el unico que gano de local fue real salt lake que supero ampliamente 3-0 al favorito seattle sounders, abrio la cuenta el tico alvaro sabori Ío a los 41 minutos, el mismo alvaro saborÍo volvio con su segundo de la noche a los 53 y sobre los 88 minutos llego ned graba

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he sent a letter to house and urban development secretary shaun donovan. he says his offices have received numerous of phone calls and e-mails concerning conflict of interest, waste, fraud. he wants to know about specific allegations. >> we run an operation we think is very efficient. we are very meticulous about plan by the rules, making sure that everything is done properly. we protect the tax dollars. we are very concerned here there is allegations made there. >> his letter demands the detailed documentation showing how to use the $67 million in federal stimulus dollars. how the housing authority became one entity. he says, they are not. he also wants him from any interest group released to him. the names of all law firms under contract since 2003 along with billing receipts. in the 2009 audit, they found 67 of 69 housing units had a 574 violations. inspectors failed to report 380 violations. in a statement, he says they are good at writing checks and not good at making sure the money is spent as intended. >> i take my job very seriously. we take our jo

nutrition programs, new school lunch and breakfast programs, new housing starts that kept people -- john donovany, he says that a million people were kept from becoming homeless. as you well know, we're talking about the worst recession since the great depression. we are talking about a financial catastrophe in this country. resources that really were directed to the most vulnerable folks, trying to make sure that they did not take a terrible brunt of the people who were losing 700,000 jobs a month -- there was an enormous effort that went on. i spent a lot of time around the indian health service and ran a lot of programs around indian country. there has been the biggest investment in first american's resources ever in any administration and they are some of the most for americans. so we pay attention to where we had huge gaps in our programs and trying to get resources under some of the poorest people in this country. there is a lot more to be done, but i think that the list of what has been accomplished, which should include the affordable cataract, having on the horizon an additional 34 mill

led invasion of afghanistan passes a ten year anniversary with donovan defeat from nowhere and something meanwhile the human cost is rising faster than ever with the number of civilians killed this year alone approaching total coalition forces in a decade of fighting. while in london there are demands on the streets for the country's troops to leave up gonna stand as a riot reflecting the unpopularity in the u.k. of the rule which has claimed almost four hundred british military lives. and occupy wall street protests against trifocals think you are spreading to dozens of american cities from richmond to los angeles and hating the whole washington d.c. . and i thank you and also you for your finance teles in their own words how they're being forced out of violently by jewish settlers from a town that's been their home for centuries the second part of our special report is up next. there are. a number on our hero. there are five hundred of them surrounded by a hundred and twenty thousand very very hostile most of. the settlers in hebron illegally being there. what's going to choose living

secretary of housing and urban development shaun donovan told the "newshour" the changes could make an important difference. >> in normal times a homeowner that has a mortgage of $260,000 at a 6% interest rate could go out and refinance at 4.5% or lower given how well today's interest rates are. that would be a savings of $250 a month and $3,000 a year. >> woodruff: nearly 900,000 borrowers refinanced under harp until now-- far short of an intended goal. donovan said he didn't know yet how many people would take advantage of the program now, but said there was a market to be tapped. >> there are about four million underwater homeowners who have a fannie mae or freddie mac mortgage and who save a significant amount of with refinancing, and that's the eligible pool. some share of those will actually take this advantage and choose to refinance. >> woodruff: the president came under new fire today for not doing more to deal with the housing crisis. the latest salvo: a web video from republican presidential candidate mitt romney saying the situation has worsened. >> welcome to nevada. >> wo

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at the buy week, the redskins were four and four having just come off a loss to the lions in which donovan mcnabb got benched. what ensued was chaos and controversy and double speak from mike shanahan and two more wins over the rest of the season. at this week's buy week, the skins are in considerably better shape. it's the relative harmony found around the redskins these days. outside of a couple comments from hall, everybody else appears to be buying what shanahan and his staff are selling. trouble makers have been weeded out, and life is pretty good out there. >> we're playing as a team. no individuals. no drama. we're just playing for a football team. when you're playing altogether, it's a lot better. it's a lot better than what we had been doing. >> you have guys who are professional who enjoy coming to work and being around each other. >> nobody more professional than flesher. phillip buchanon returned to the team today. he was suspended for use of performance-enhancing drugs. time to cast for your vote for the dc.highschoolsports.net game this week. winning game leads off on friday.

with the vikings off to a 1-5 start, coach leslie frasier announce that former redskins' donovan mcnabb will be replaced by ponder for the rest of the season. this year, he was benched after six games. >>> the cardinals hosting the rangers. bottom of the 4th no score. lance berkman with two on, the base hit just inside right field. poolhall scores, followed by matt holliday to give them a 2-0 lead. another look shows it was actually foul, landing to the right of the line. bottom of the 6th tied 2-2 fly ball to the right nelson cruz cannot make the catch. david frieze scored what proved to be the game winner. game 2 tomorrow, 8:00 on fox. >>> dc united hosting portland. united needing to win to keep playoff hosts alive. he spins and scores with the left footed boot his 16th goal of the season, game tied 1-1. 89th minute still 1-1 perkins comes out of the net crosses it to snyder, who heads it in. but he is off sides no goal. united and portland play to a 1-1 draw that eliminates dc united from the postseason. >> that's bad news for them. >> read all about it in duh magazine. it's getting

housing secretary sean donovan says dunsmore and her daughter will likely qualify. and could save $3,000 next year. the crisis has continued to drag the economy down. >> the housing programs that he announced that day have not delivered the way that he pledged that they would. why not? >> frankly, we've taken a situation that was a housing market falling off a cliff. there's no question that it's better than it was and we've helped. but i think where you're being fair is they haven't gone as far as we had hoped. >> reporter: critics say it will be modest and not help as many people as it should, for instance, those who have been hit the hardest and missed payment, for example, the white house says roughly 11 million americans are currently underwater meaning that their homes are worth significantly less than their mortgage. diane? >> 11 million. what a number. okay, jake, thank you. >>> we do have a second report tonight on your money and your bank. a backlash under way tonight. americans fighting back against those new fees being imposed by so many of the big banks

led invasion of afghanistan passes a ten year anniversary with donovan defeat nowhere in sight meanwhile the human cost is rising faster than ever with the number of civilians killed this year alone approaching total coalition losses in a decade of fighting. while in london there are demands on the streets for the country's troops to relieve up gonna stand as a riot reflecting the unpopularity in the u.k. of the war which has claimed almost four hundred british military lives. and occupy wall street protests against trifocals think you are spreading to dozens of american cities from richmond to los angeles and hitting the campus to washington d.c. . and. tell us in their own was how they're being forced out violently by jewish settlers from a town that's been their home.

while the rainbows that many of you have seen and sent us such beautiful pictures of were captured in donovanr all of those. they're on our website. check those out. those and many more are up there and we thank you for taking the time to send them to us. we have a fascinating time lambs. there's a little shower passing by right by, flying by. we'll see more of those lake-effect variety. but we were struck by the colors. look at the planes landing at midway airport. you see the lights as they're in the pattern right there and coming in. gorgeous night in our beautiful city. we have turned the rain off for the moment, but the big storm is consolidating. mixing with a system off the east coast. this thing will spin up and just sit there. so the folks in the mid-atlantic are about ready to go through the routine we went through with a cloud cover over us for seven days. it will be there for a while. this storm is going to fire winds down the length of the lake and set up lake-effect rain showers that may flirt with our area tomorrow. we have an incredible warm-up on the way next week. gale warni

fromnnifer donovan is live washington with the details on it.int is he wants their attention and get them talking. eventually the white house confronts one major demonstration. a call to strike in the d.c. voting rights to man no stranger to political fights, ralph nader. taking the statehood effort new level of urgency. this is part of a citywide until d.c. get statehood. the first month 15, the 30, the poor, an hour. frontannounced in the mayor who has already shown he is willing to be arrested for the cause. i support the citizens of rising up and letting people know how outraged we are with the plight we experienced. get ourlove to employers to cooperate with that. a limited general strike with employees reporting late to work in unison with their employers approval. i am not sure how i feel that. sure what kind of impact that would make. take it to a business like paul, to stores on 14th street. the owner is not convinced. >> it hurts me. my employees do not come, i opened. i cannot do business. we also spoke to the of busboys. said he spok

he sent a letter to shaun donovan, claiming his office has received numerous phone calls and e-mail concerning conflicts of interest, fraud, and waste. they deny any good -- wrongdoing. >> we run an operation that is very efficient, and are meticulous about playing by the rule, and making sure that everything is done properly, and that we protect the tax dollars. we are very concerned that there are these unfounded allegations made. >> "the baltimore sun" first reported the inquiry. the demand detailed reports on how they use the dollars. chuck -- charles grassely also non- reports for habc's profit affiliate's and contracts submitted to hud. that includes billing receipts, documents outlining steps federal officials took after a critical accounting office audit of housing units reached by habc. in the 2009 audit, the gao found the violations, and 380 of them were not reported. charles grassely says hud is good at writing checks but not the debt watching how the money is spending -- not good watching how the money is spent. >> it is very concerning. we think integrity in public confidence it i

bernard weighed in on another former philly guy he doesn't have any love for, donovan mcnabb. >> we area bit of a renaissance here in dc you are a philadelphia guy have you thought about bringing another fight back to dc? i know you fought years ago here in dc. >> not only that, right out of dc, five or six of my opponents around her lynn and dc you know you said dc my publicist, kelly swan son who lives in washington dc i would love to do a big fight in dc, look, rk stadium, for the red skins, jones in 93 so i have no problems fighting where the president lives. >>> let me ask you this bernard you have been somewhat controversial as you say in some of your comments, we had mcnabb here last year he has been out spoken about him are you surprised to see him struggling in minnesota? >> no, i am not surprised he is struggling back there i just feel sorry for y'all, y'all inherited a bad germ only way you get rid of that bad germ, you got to cut it out first go ahead and set audio tape doctors appointment and get that cut out your back that will spread and when it spreads other people will

. >> donovan mcnabb. >> very cool. >> he had so much fun with the question. >> thank you for the question. if you have a question that you want answered g to www.myfoxdc.com and click on the weather tab since dave ross is in the studio, i will let him know the cowboys the last 21 years have had 20 starting quarterbacks. right up there. >> wow. >>> and light go to julie wright. what is going? >> i love right now, unfortunately, guys. we're -- and tied up right now omitro's blue-yellow line and there is some single tracking because of the unscheduled work and expect delays on the blue- yellow line respectively from lafont plaza to pentagon city and to arlington cemetery. inbound on route 50 this morning from the beltway to bladensburg road, a 15-minute trip, the lanes there and reported on the road and highway, follow police direction to get by and in fredericksburg, northbound i-95 and route 3. two lanes are tied up and expect delays travelling northbound from route 1 and eastbound, 66 tide up here in monasses, heading to centerville. that is a check of your fox 5 on-time traffic. >>> and

98 yds for his record 17th touchdown return the defense to return to form sacking the quarterback donovancnaab 5 * if the bears won 39- 10 ... after a month of occupying new york protests around the world have grown and the original movement races more cash for its cause plus the troubling in mission the mother of a missing 11 month old girl has made to investigators and a look at the dedication of the new memorial honoring martin luther king jr. and washington d.c. as thousands of people paid tribute to the civil rights a icon we will be right back ♪ more and more folks are trying out snapshot from progressive. a totally different way to save on car insurance. the better you drive the more you can save. no wonder snapshot's catching on. plug into the savings you deserve, with snapshot from progressive. i'm bonnie and this is my cvs. i don't have time for the flu. that's why i'm knocking things off my to-do list. vitamin d -- done. hand sanitizer -- done. hey, eric, i'm here for my flu shot. sorry, didn't make an appointment. well, you don't need one. flu shots. every store. every day. in

sarah pierson, a lex a reavis and caitlyn donovan.drink your orange juice and take your vitamins next saturday. that's viewpoint. thanks for joining us this sunday morning. i'm pat lawson muse. stay with us for news 4 today. >>> walking in, seeing all his quotes, you know, really unbelievable. the day has finally arrived. nearly two months after it was supposed to happen this morning the martin luther king jr. memorial will finally be dedicated. i'm john schriffen. >> i'm angie goff. today is sunday, october 16th. today is the day hundreds of thousands of people have dreamt about for years. a little more than three hours from now the new martin hrugter link jr. memorial will be dedicated. it comes seven weeks after the original dedication was postponed because of hurricane irene. activities start at 8:00. the dedication program begins at 9:00 along the tidal basin. 50,000 people are expected to attend. president obama will deliver the keynote address around 11:00. the reverend jesse jackson and members of the king family will also spe

deceiving when they said that my brother's actions precipitated the events of july 23rd and then later on donovanepeated it and said they not only precipitated it but caused it and then went on to say that hayley, had she gotten out of her room and climbed out of her window, the events wouldn't have take inplace and if she had gotten out of her room and gotten into michaela's room and out her window, the events wouldn't have happened. >> and now it's in the hands of the jury? >> that's right. they have a lot of evidence before them and sitting in that trial, it's hard to get past. they are going to have to figure out whether or not in fact joshua komisarjevsky was trying to steal money during that home invasion and because it took so long, taking a mom to the bank to withdraw $15,000, whether they began cracking during this whole crime. so it's going to be interesting and, again, the jury -- it wasn't easy testimony to listen to, brooke. >> deb feyerick, thank you very much. >>> there were torture devices, pornographic pictures. >> a man is convicted of torturing women inside a trailer that he re

. >> remember, he was railed for not giving donovan enough time.etting more out of haynesworth. instead, he overhauled the roster. he was once the league's oldest. boy is that ever working out. >> i'm part of the team. one of the 11 guys out there trying to make plays and we are getting better. >> he upgraded talent. hightower. boeing, and cofield worked out. the captain believes the character and commitment is just as important. >> you have guys this buy into what you're doing. >> so who would have predicted this? the eagles 1-3 at the bottom of the division with several question marks. the redskins comparatively stable at the top. and while that may surprise many, don't count the coach among them. >> this game really doesn't surprise me. this is a football team, players that are hand picked. >> whether it correlates to a better record is yet to be seen. let's face it, not many were confident in the team or the coach. at season's kickoff. >> hopefully we can create our own identity. >> identity thus far, work in progress. but better than last seas

traded in the nfl recently, you look at the redskins sending jason campbell for a four round pick, donovanfor a sixth round pick and you get carson palmer that could go for potentially two first round picks. last i checked, carson palmer was no tom brady. this to me says if the redskins want to go get a quarterback somewhere else now, they have to trade their first round picks for the next 30 years. >> it is appear act of desperation bit oakland raiders and a win now mentality. they are 4-2. they got a great running game, good solid defense an i guess they are desperate for a quarterback once they lost jace son campbell. they get carson palmer. kudos to the bengals to get two first round picked for a guy they said they weren't going to trade. >> it shows you how important the quarterback position is. they were left with bowler. they to h. to pay the price and get a real one. >> he is night premiere quarterback anymore. >> thank you. >> his best days are three or four years behind him. they didn't have a premiere quarterback before. they had a serviceable one. >> he is a huge upgrade over k

and they are deal with the same thing in minnesota with donovan mcnabb trying to decide if he will start is the only other person that may be worse than rex grossman. jason, you brought up the point that i was trying to make earlier which is the fact if you go with john beck, and you make that commitment, what happens when he falters. do you go back to rex grossman or do you let him finish it out. >> that is the situation mike shanahan put himself in and bruce allen. beck will have some moments where he can move the offense. i just think he will falter. it will be a situation where he will be benched based on performance and you will go back to rex. you have. to. >> this is what happens with you have journey man quarterbacks. both guys stink. they don't play 16 straight games. they just don't. >> they don't have any other options. david girard is not an option. he is having back surgery. he is off the board. the trading deadline is today in the nfl. the do the redskins try to get carson palmer away from the cincinnati bengals? the redskins don't have any other options other than turning