i think what lowell -- i know what lowell mcadam was, the point he was making was this. what drove is need for the u.s. government to address the spectrum issue just as we talked about earlier, congress needs to do something in order to make more spectrum available. and companies recognize there will be a great need for spectrum, and so it was just another sign that more spectrum is needed. and that was a factor that drove the at&t/t-mobile transaction. >> host: and given that the department of justice has sued to block that deal, what kind -- if they are successful in that, what kind of implications does that have for the overall industry going forward which does need more spectrum, as you said, and needs flexibility in order to acquire that spectrum that it needs? >> guest: well, it's unclear exactly what the implications would be of the doj or the fcc turning down the transaction. i think that it's safe to say companies will, you know, adapt to the circumstances that are in place. and t mobile, some have observed, is already taking steps in the marketplace to go after