we're going through this -- ben bernanke, chairman of the mervin king,ve and head of the bank of england, have both said we've just experienced possibly the worst financial crisis in the history of man and after financial crises, there are inevitably these periods of slow no growth, recession, depression-like environments. added to this, we have ideology at the government levels preventing the government from doing the most it can do to alleviate the problem, using expansionary government policies to create demand. we're not doing that sufficiently and as a result unemployment is way up and will stay way up and when unemployment is way up, poverty goes up so i think what's -- what you see happening is poverty become normalized in some way. you see people who thought of themselves as playing by the rules and doing all the right things all of a sudden poor. and it's a kind of -- this is an irreplication of what happened in the depression but it rhymes with the depression so that will create, in turn, i think, political change. tavis: i don't live in greece, i don't live in germany or franc