>> last year nattie getting back on draft. change things. >> friends tell us that. >> the radar shows some of the rain still hanging out in the northeast part of the state. chances for showers tonight and tomorrow. again i don't think we dry out, see the sun again in a big way until saturday. that's good timing. >> good times. thank you for watching us. we will see you tonight at 11.

louis as a natty light kind of town. i'm glad you're watching on msnbc or listening live on sirius e-mail. shoot me an e-mail or tweet m me @willie geist 1. do what delmon young does text the word awake followed by your response to 622639. we'd read the best later in the show. the next 30 minutes will be your cram session for friday october 14th. a lot going on including a showdown in the next couple hours, between new york city police looking to clear the park of the occupy wall streeters. we'll see how that one ends. evidence that the nhl season has started. who knew? a vicious brawl and post-knockout taunting to go with it. it's the coolest game on ice, you know. that clip later in sports. >>> first, let's get to the news. live at 5:30 a.m. here at 30 rock in new york city. president obama holding a state dinner for the president of south korea last night at the white house. both leaders praising an agreement passed by congress that would open trade between the two countries. the president called it a win for both nat

which is that conservatives are sick and tired of the natty state and that's what that cigarette wasut. i don't smoke, but i'm sick of mayors and the government telling me where and what i can do, how much salt i can use, trans fats, all the rest of that. that was a subtlety in the sophistication of that message and herman cain is saying something else, which is i'm not like d rest of these guys. i don't play by their rules. i'm a leader. he was saying something specific about his leadership skills himself, his brand and something near and dear to the hearts of conservatives, which is get government off my back, out of my shower, off my kitchen table. >> i want you to stand by. we're going continue this conversation. sounds like mary does not like the new york mayor very much. herman cain has a lot of support among conservatives, but often says he doesn't necessarily have all the facts when it comes to answering some tough policy questions. is that okay for a man who wants to be president of the united states to say i don't have all the facts? stick around, you're in the strategy ses