i want to bring in nick kristoff, a pulitzer prize winner and a professor of education at new york university. gentleman, welcome to the program. this particular story was widely e-mailed. the discussion was interesting. another story i wanted to bring in. research showing kindergarten may be starting too late. consider this quote from "time" magazine, rethinking pre-k. five ways to fix preschool. take two kids, one from low income the other middle class. let them run around in respective homes at age 5 enroll in kindergarten. were the first day of school comes around, the child from the lower income will be 1 1/2 years behind grade level. the middle class kid 1 1/2 years ahead. that's a three-year gap in learning at the very start. are we starting too late? >> in terms of fighting poverty, there is abuntant evidence to address it early on. some evidence, address it actually in utero with helping mothers -- one of the most helpful projects is a nurse family partnership, which works with mothers while they're expecting. and things like the perry preschool project, another project, terrific res