officer obot. officers peregoy and trail bravely turned a corner and in pursuit of the suspect and noticed he was still holding onto the uzi assault weapon while facing east on centreville avenue. officer peregoy and trail could hear officer obot from another direction yell, drop the gun. officer trail yelled, drop the gun or i will shoot. the suspect got the gun, was tackled by officers, and was taken into custody without injury to the officers or suspect. as the officers detained the suspect, additional suspects approached the officers but were ordered back. the officers quickly determine this incident started over a dispute with another group, and that an additional shooter was involved and was also quickly detained by members of the attack -- gang task force. as a result of all the shooting at the scene, property damage at the scene had occurred but not one individual was struck. officers trail, peregoy, and obot instantly responded to shots fired and were confronted by an extremely dangerous i

wu, when your department, the district attorney's office discovers an office -- an officer has been untruthful or is abusing power, do you have a policy in place for reporting this? or is there just an understanding, or how does your office deal with this? >> i also think everyone for having me here today. i could not agree more with the panelists to spoke before me. i say this to young lawyers all the time in our office. all we are is our integrity. all we are is our ability to communicate and put forth evidence to juries, and we have to rely on that. we have to rely on integrity. it is difficult when these situations happen. i was really involved with the crime lab cases and the allegations against the criminals. i've been very involved in the allegations regarding some of these search and seizure issues, and i am just now becoming involved with the cases of potential theft. and all these are allegations. what is difficult, i think, for prosecutors in our office -- we find folks to be very reactive to these situations. the response often is if officers are not being truthful, that we need to

we have to teach young officers and older officers, you cannot do this. you should never have started. breaking the rules because you think you have to do it to get a bad guy, breaking the rules because you do not trust defense lawyers because we are going to let these scumbags off. i trust the attempts to be done bechief suhr, but it is a long- range process. i am not an apologist for greg suhr or the district attorney, but they have to find a solution. without the state, law enforcement does not work. [applause] >> so, chief suhr -- [laughter] what do you do about this problem of the end justifying the means? so, how you teach your young officers or train them not to abuse their power and not to get these bad guys anyway they can and does not matter how they operate? how do you teach trainees about this? >> first, thank you for having me. this is a bit of an away game for me. [laughter] [applause] >> either way, it is your home town. >> that is true. >> you might feel like you're on the hot seat on this panel draws that is ok. i can handle it. >> the ba

, officer of valley stopped -- officer o'malley shot one shot. the suspect fired a round at them through his back window. officers came, stern, and the live, returned fire without hitting the suspect. the officers continued their verbal commands to the suspect to put up his hands and leave the vehicles. the suspect got out of the driver's door, raised his hands, took off his shirt doing a full circle. the suspect then dropped his hands to his waist and took a few steps toward the officers who did not fire at these provoking actions. the suspect then returned to his car and sat on the running board. officers kept up a stream of commands for the suspect to surrender which he ignored. officer pain move down the alley toward the alley, warning people to get out of the street. sgt. paine had arrived at a position parallel to that of the subject -- suspect. the suspect turned in the car and appeared to be getting something. he turned back toward the officers who again held their fire. the suspect turned back toward the inside of the vehicle, appeared t

i may child of the post office.rew up in the time when post offices were very excite in places because we got our mail and that changed our lives. because i grew up in a british colony, it was also the place that controlled cables and telegrams. i was a junior, junior, 4 -- correspond when i was 16 and my assignment came by cable which i got in a box at the post office or went sometimes five times per day to see if there was some excitement from london or new york, something to be doing. this was in africa. i kept in that sense of magic and excitement and life changing. i was not somebody who's only telegram was to announce a death. in the united states, the telegraph and telegrams, cables etc were run by western union, not the post office but still the post office was what anchored a small town and was a source of lovely things like magazines, like changing letters, correspondence, wondrous things -- a very special place for the post office and for the unfailingly nice people who carried the mail. the letter carrie

as an officer of the court, i do not appreciate police witnessing -- witnessing police officers lying under oath, not once but twice in a court of law for 8 $220 traffic citation. this is egregious to me and it must be an embarrassment to the police department. i do not appreciate the taking of my busy time to appear on a citation that was issued to me without cause and under false pretense. to meet quotas of the san francisco police department, apparently. i do not appreciate the san francisco police department ignoring a court order for the production of documents. no documents were provided, and the reasoning for now documents was provided. that is a contempt of court, quite problematic. i do not appreciate repairers by these public employees. on the street or in the courtroom or the courthouse as i experienced last week. i do not appreciate a police officer who is clearly on duty lying to me about it and refusing to identify herself by name or by badge number. i do not appreciate i am paying days bad apples for their salary and benefits. this is not a good use of police time and i

s office. >> the office is a bureaucracy right now. it is a story about when he was fired by the da. the d.a. claims that he wanted to be no. 2. so he fired him. you know, if you want to be no. 2, and i was the leader, i would fire you. if you want to be number one, you are on. give them protection. when you have fear, you can't execute. they work at will. they're firing anybody they want for anybody. they need a civil service protection. the unions understand them. police understand them. we should bring that to justice. and then we will see the justice gets done. >> i think it is important to have an office that people want to come to. it is my commitment to make san francisco one of the best in the country so it is no longer just to the county referred to when we talk about the best offices in the country. we need to have leadership that has been there and done that, leadership that can train the lawyers. in order to lead an army of trial lawyers, you need to walk a mile in their shoes to earn and gained the trust of those lawyers.

of course, they are good law enforcement officers. i've had the pleasure of working with the staff where we have looked at and had to rewrite the policies, all of those policies. i want to tell you, there are very good people. but the people did not insist that they do what the supervisor had to do. this is a common phrase. i will sum up. i first started when i was traveling on a book tour and i ran into officers in communities to were very upset because they had been whistle-blowers. what they were telling me is, look, the officers are taught properly in the academy. once the go to work, the training officer or the supervisor says "forget everything you've been taught in the academy." "this is how we do it in the streets here? [applause] this is a reality. you have to look at the training, that the trainee is being imposed and the people are following it, and to have to hold them accountable for. if you do not hold people accountable, all we are doing is wishing past a graveyard. accountability is the most important and it starts at

we require our officers to comply with 810. we have a commitment in writing from the fbi that says any member of the police department that is assigned to jttf can while abiding by policies and orders. there has been suggestion to the contrary. i do not think that is a fair suggestion. it does not mean it is not an important issue for us to discuss. we will as a commission. there is no commitment from the fbi that our officers are and continue to be governed by the department of general orders is not accurate. we will do the work as many subcommittees do and we will bring it back to the commission for discussion when we are ready. thank you. commissioner kingsley: when do we have our next khomeni meeting schedule? when and where? >> we have not picked a date. we're looking toward the end of november. it might be november 30. we have to coordinate that. commissioner kingsley: what are the thoughts on where that would be? >> either the central or southern station. commissioner kingsley: thank you. one item that i would like to pu

we have to teach young officers and older officers, you cannot do this. you should never have started. breaking the rules because you think you have to do it to get a bad guy, breaking the rules because you do not trust defense lawyers because we are going to let these scumbags off. i trust the attempts to be done bechief suhr, but it is a long- range process. i am not an apologist for greg suhr or the district attorney, but they have to find a solution. without the state, law enforcement does not work. [applause] >> so, chief s

the officer fired.ice are not saying much else. >>will: tranche is almost to the scene to provide us with live updates. san jose police are investigating an officer involved shooting that happened here in the 700 block of hillsdale ave. >>darya: let's get a check on whether. >>louisa: low cloud cover and a fall. increasing clouds throughout the morning hours and a tents of rain moves in. it will set it to the north bay and spreading south. after that, a shift in the weather. all morning and lying as we head into tomorrow.--warming and drying as we head into tomorrow. the cloud cover is just starting to push it and bleeding most of the day at its current hour. there is a look at current temperatures. as we take you through the day, it looks like by the evening, by about 7:00 p.m., we will not accumulate much in the way up or rainfall totals. by 4:00 a.m., all we will have picked a quarter of the dead in santa rosa.--a quarter of an inch in santa rosa. it is not a huge storm, nothing like what we saw last

the officers were neck and neck. those of few feet away watched it all happened. >> this is putting cases in jeopardy. >> she is a longtime employee now suspended. she was supposed to be watching over evidence. tonight, and narcotics cop is being accused of selling drugs. the workbooks in it -- they were booked in martinez this morning. >> norman wells was a very high- ranking narcotics commander. they are accused of more than 20 counts including conspiracy and selling marijuana and steroids. >> i feel like i was very much violated. >> also, juveniles and the neighborhood were put in handcuffs themselves. he was in the the raj, when an officer tried to take -- garage. >> the public defender's office says the video is so damning, one of the officers had to cover the lens. narcotics officers said they received permission to search two suspects' rooms, but the video tells a different story. >> without a warrant, without knocking, they burst into the room, all four officers, and then later lied in in a police report. >>

for the officer's gun. apparently, the officer that was in the struggle with one of the suspects, that gun did discharge. what we do not know at this point, was the officer in any way injured when his own gun discharge or was the suspect injured? apparently the suspect then took off. there were a couple of other officers that were then called in for backup and both of them also discharged their service weapons. so we have three service weapons discharged. the one with the struggle, two other officers. we don't know anything about the extent of injuries at this point. one officer and the suspect were both transported to separate hospitals. the condition of either officer or suspect is unknown. we don't know if either was shot. steve perkins is a resident in the area. tell us what you were doing and what you heard and saw. >> reporter: basically, i was just watching tv and all of a sudden i heard like maybe four or five shots being fired off. at first my initial thought it was coming from this way because the

some of the officers were punched, and some of the officers had a moment with which turned out to be disconcerted when liquid is thrown on you. you do not know what is, and it takes awhile to get used to it. i have to emphasize the helmets are for protection. they are not wearing helmets anticipating that is not what that is about. it is no different than when someone wears a helmet during contact sport. if you suffer a head injury, of people do not recover from them, so i want to make it clear they are there for their protection, and that concludes my report, and i will ask the discharge review board and the investigation summary to be presented. >> thank you. >> good evening. give me one minute. i will just pull up the reports. i am with the officer shooting investigations division of the department. i am here to present two reports to you. reconvened on september 21, 2011. the voting members included the four deputy chief as well as the advisor remembers. we reviewed the shooting that occurred last year on 1000 sceptre street. this was an incident that involved are respondent to a

officer corps. slowly washington raised his glass and said with a heart full of love and gratitude i now take leaves of you. i wish that your leader days may be as prosperous and happy as your former ones have been glorious and honorable. and almost breathless science one recall the watched him drink. they raised their glasses in the emotional response a few mumbled freezes and broken sentences. tears began to stream down washington's cheeks. the officers ander of this man if not a congress dissolved in the several meetings of the general grief. they understood that it was only one reason for those tears. a larger reason was his regret that the field to get the reword the needed and deserved. not only the money that was owed to them but the praise in depreciation from a grateful country. by this time the hostility to the army that had troubled congressman hamilton had ballooned into a smear campaign led by some politicians and many newspaper editors. the officers were portrayed as a greedy aristocra

cafe and officer stanza forward. sgt molina was a critical expert witness in the recent federal trial in against the gang members in which six of them were convicted. i think it was his expert testimony that was critical in the conviction of those six officers. additionally, something wanted to mention and i do not know how many of you have heard this news, but the department had a press release put out today. i would like to read it. san francisco police homicide inspectors, with the assistance of mission station plain clothes team, arrested a 15-year-old juvenile in connection with the murder and of the 22-year-old victim who was shot to death early monday morning, august the 30, 2011, while taking a break from his place of employment at 19th and san carlos. inspectors, after a month-long investigation, drawing upon the cooperation of community members and merchants, charged the juvenile with one count of homicide, two firearms violations, and a gang enhancement of the juvenile was arrested while being held on unre

our office is staffed by a diverse group of civilians who have never been san francisco police officers. the office of citizen complaint is that 33-member staff, the majority of which are investigators, and the balance of this faq consists of attorneys and sports -- support staff. to that end, office of citizen complaints mission is to ensure police accountability by conducting fair, timely, and unbiased sourcrecommendations. we -- when we conduct an investigation, we do so to figure out what happened. we interview the person who brought the complaint, they all police officers in civilian witnesses. we obtain additional evidence from the police department in the form of police reports and other documentation generated by the department. we also visit the site of the alleged occurrence and may take photographs of persons. our aim is to complete the investigation within nine months and with limited exceptions, we must complete our investigation within a year. and once we complete an investigation, we make a finding of whether the complaint of officer -- the complaint officer violated our

so, i talked to a lot of other g-8's offices to find out how -- d.a.'s offices throughout the state to find out how they dealt with this. i find that a lot of offices across the state rely on that type of relationship. given the situation occurred with the crime lab, we needed to absolutely do more, and what we did is create a policy where they did, and i think it may have been cheap gas than -- chief gaston at the time were they created personnel files where they could go to the court system to learn whether this type of material existed, whether or not information that we should know about individuals who are testifying for us in that trial should be given to the police department. we also have our own internal policy because -- which means if there are allegations of misconduct, we create materials and have an internal policy about how the material is disseminated within our offices so that we can comply with all our obligations in terms of discovery. our office has had a lot of discussions about the implementation of that policy and a lot about when

the officers have their plastic ties. that's standard procedure when you have a protest situation like this. over here to the right you have a protester who is for some reason speaking with police, arguing with police. police are holding their ground. the best way to sum it is up is they've been here in probably 10 or 15 minutes. they have the plaza surrounded. right now it's a standoff. as i mentioned. a dozen, maybe a couple dozen protesters already deciding to voluntarily leave. they are letting them go and leave the perimeter. >> bob redell is reporting from downtown oakland. >> >> >>on. jon, we knews this was going to come. there is going to be some point where there's ability for them to assemble. it's curious on the timing. >> i would agree. you talked about from window to 6:00 a.m. >> we're an hour away from 6:00 a.m. >> and it's starting to come to a head. it's interesting what kind of decision are they going the be able to make. are they going to let them come back out there? you see the police force coming in.

i have prosecuted police officers>> i think police offic, above all else, do not want a dirty cop in their presence, it is not good for anybody. they are held to a higher standard. we should hold them to a higher standard. i am independent, i am not beholden to anybody. i did not have any concerns. i will honestly and fairly prosecute police officers as anyone else i have found violated the laws. >> the san francisco crime lab scandals, recently, a local newspaper, they conducted an audit of san francisco's dna procedures. both the newspaper article said the police department and the da's office have suppressed that report. how can the san francisco criminal justice system go about having -- we will start over here. >> in terms of the crime lab and the dna labs generally, i would turn it over to an independent agency has, given all the scandals and the continuing news stories that come out every single day. we need an independent crime lab that was adequately funded. in the last few days, there is a lot of talk about the memo. and the d.a. said in a debate last night that he had give

man who was shot by officers is expected to survive. >>nichole: at this extended stay hotel, there are nearly 20 police cars and dozens of officers investigating an officer involved shooting that happened early on sunday. according to police, it started before 8:00 a.m.. hotel guests were recorded a suspicious person. officers say the suspect was passed out or sleeping outside a hotel room. they made several attempts to weaken up. >> upon coming to, this person presented an immediate threat are grabbing a weapon that he was in possession of. at that point, officers fired on the suspect. >>nichole: this hotel guest was standing nearby. police shot the suspect several times and he was taken to a local hospital where he was treated. for investigators state of the scenes for hours trying to piece together what initially led to the shooting. the >>vicki: a murder suspect remains of a list. steve ruiz has been on the run since the shooting of a hell's angel member earlier this month. this was the scene in san jose asked police served a warran

even talking back to the officers. the officers are in full riot gear. this scene it is a bit more calm we are still waiting on word from the oakland police to park and on how many people live arrested. we have more video to show you bleeding from word of the oakland police--department. we have tips more video to show you. and how many people total that they have booked. that was set up right in the to the cause of the booking center. with the sheer amount of volume of our arrests. also inside the encampment of war photographer was able to go inside. one of our photographers was able to go--in side of the encampment to witness the destruction of tents. the press conference with the oakland police and the city mayor is happening right now and we will keep you updated. >>mark: thank you george >>daria: george? >>george: avoid downtown. a specially 14th, 15th, 16th, broadway, clay the senate the and a round snow park, and the clay vicinity also the frank ogawa class, with street closures expected. even public transportation is being routed. around the rest

officers responded and found mr. wu outside, bleeding severely from his left hand, wrapped in a towel. it was a very severe injury. he had a knife in his and that he had just taken from his son who was on an attack. officers called for the beanbag gun and moved contact to make sure there were no other victims upstairs. had they discovered that mr. wu's son had been alone, that would have stood down. as they reached the top of the stairs, they saw mrs. wu, who had been stabbed more times than general hospital could count. bleeding out, bleeding to death on the floor. they tried to drag her to safety and be undetected. at some point in time, the son became aware there was also a sister in the house and with two knives raise over his head, he attempted a continuous attack on his mother and the officers. officers engaged the suspect with one shot from the beanbag gun. it did not have the desired effect. he continued to advance and the officers had to fire -- one officer fired two rounds, ending the attack. sadly, the mot

two offices? >> it is a crucial relationship, and it needs to be a productive and collaborative relationship. when you are in the courtroom, you are opposing counsel, but outside, we have the same goal -- to make san francisco state for, the people coming through our courts turn their lives around once the prosecution is over. i think we need to create an environment where we can work together. i in turn in the public defender's office juvenile division for patty, who has been a longtime managing director there. i have seen it from that side, and i think we need to have a collaborative relationship, and it has not been that way in the past. i will say that - standing as it has improved, but i think it could not have gotten any worse from when george came into office. >> it should be a professional relationship, but their two missions are different. the mission of law enforcement and the mission of the d a's office is to present the truth around the commission of the crime. the defense mission, alt

from your office that helped out. supervisor campos: my apologies, i ever got to a knowledge the sponsors. supervisor mirkarimi, supervisor cohen, supervisor mar, and supervisor avalos. it would not have happened without your willingness to work with us, chief. to your knowledge, how many departments in the country have community policing imbedded in their general orders? >> i believe that every department in the country strives to be a community police department, but i believe this is the first such policy and procedure which actually codify it. i know people in the past have said that it cannot be defined, but that does not appear to be the case. this is how we are defining it. supervisor campos: and i think that is very important to highlight. it is very historic that we are the first to codify it, and to do so in a way -- i think replacement of it as department general order 1.08 makes sure that it is something that really impacts the entirety of the operation. that is one question that i have, and i will turn it

you can see police officers are moving in. frank disa is oakland city hall and there is a huge plaza which right next to the 12th street city station and allie rasmus is there and you can see a lot of protesters who also have their own cameras. we will be following this live and it does appear several officers are where it is occupied oakland. stay with us, we will be back with more, we will be right back.