when i was up in burnout hopkins camp up in philadelphia and i was working with danny davis and rickbody they didn't treat me any different. they made me work. they had me going out with 26-year-old guys. i had one getting ready for a championship fight and that helped me prepare myself for the fight. >> it clearly paid off. so much, the physical training but also the memts part of it. >> yes. >> in reading a few things you didn't let your emotions take over. and that maybe is a test not only of the 26 years that you spent in prison, but also to the beauty of being at the place where you are in your life. when you're younger, would it have been a little bit harder, do you think, for you? >> i think the maturity came over the years, you know? prison wakes you up, you know? you going to do two things. you going to get yourself together, which i chose to do, because i went and got my bachelor's and master's degree and over 52 certificates with a few trades. or either you're going to choose a life that is going to say negativity. i got around a couple of people who helped me to build a b