susan, and jimmy are here. and the debate, it would seem, mr. williams, ms. del percio, ms. finney, would be about the length of susan's hair. if you noticed, the hair ku. it's very nice, wouldn't you say, jim? >> i e-mailed her yesterday morning, sitting in my office, and said, susan, your hair looks fantastic. >> i think i'm hearing, wrap it up, right? >> and no one told me to do it. >> so, listen, the hope, let's start with -- now that we're done with the hair, now we're going to deal with the pope. the pope has called for a central world bank. specifically, calling for the politics of the achievement of a universal common good. this is not to suggest, i don't know where he's going with that, but -- >> it's kind of what he has in common with the occupiers. it's like, no one's going to be a leader, per se, but i'm just going to throw it out there and you guys work it out. >> what do you think, karen? >> i think on the one hand, obviously, the church has a lot of money and assets to protect. on the other hand, it's not -- i'll be a realist on that side. on the other hand, it