her name is yvette flunder and she was originally ordained in the same church as carlton pearson. milarity to anything carlton had ever known. >> we have people who are in recovery from drugs and not recovering well in every situation. people who are homeless, imminently homeless, living with hiv. all worshiping together in the same place. >> even bishop flunder would be unwelcome in many churches. she's a lesbian. or, as she puts it, a same-gender loving person. >> the whole room was almost all gay, lesbian, transgender, bisexual people. i mean, i had never been in a room full of almost 99% gay people, praising god and singing and dancing. >> carlton explained to them his new ideas about hell. his notion that heaven was waiting for everybody, even them. perhaps especially them. and when he was done, bishop flunder invited him to sit down and take off his shoes. >> we went and got a warm basin of water, and then we asked him to take off his socks and his shoes. >> did he have any idea what you were going to do? >> no. he was absolutely clueless. no, he did not know. >> and she knel