>> there are 115,000 employees in the department of justice. >> it stops with you. >> hi have ultimate responsibility for that which happens in the department but i cannot be expected to know the details of every operation that is ongoing in the justice department on a day to day basis. i did not know about fast and furious as indicated in the charts you have up there until it became public. >> you cannot be expected to have known about fast and furious despite the fact that we know you received a memo on july 5th, 2010, and another memo on fast and furious november 1st, 2010, and you say you cannot be expected to have known about it because of the size of your agency? >> there are couple problems with that chart, colorful though it is. the a.d. holder received a memo. incorrect. ac holder received recent events memo. that is incorrect. >> memos with your name on it addressed to you referring to the fast and furious operation. are you saying you didn't read them? >> i didn't receive them. what happened is these reports are prepared, weekly reports are prepared with my name on them and

>> well, there are 115,000 employees in the united states department of justice. there are -- >> and it stops with you. >> i have ultimate responsibility for that which happens in the department, but i cannot be expected to know the details of every operation that is ongoing in the justice department on a day-to-day basis. i did not know about fast and furious as indicated in the charts that you now have up there until, i guess -- well, until it became public. >> you cannot be -- you didn't know despite the fact that we know you received an ndic memo on july 5, 2010, another memo on fast and furious, november 1, 2010, you say you can't be expected to have known about it because of the size of the agency? >> there's problems with the chart, colorful though it is, they received the memo is up correct, they receive significant recent events memo is incorrect. >> they had your name on it addressed to you referring to the fast and furious operation, or are you just saying you didn't read them. >> i didn't receive them. >> you didn't rave them? >> the weekly reports are

what office does he hold in the department of justice? >> he is the assistant attorney general of -- >> knowing him as he did back in july 2010, allowed a letter that went out on part -- on department stationery -- why would he let a letter that was false represent the position of the department of justice. >> first of all, the briefing, that was about wide receiver, not fast and furious. >> by the way, do you know the difference between wide receiver and fast and furious? >> their different operations. >> do you know the differences? the factual differences between wide receiver and fast and furious? >> there were a number of differences both in terms of scope, a time. the bush administration is the one who started wide receiver. the obama administration is where wide receiver -- is where fast and furious began. >> are you winning this, or do you know? >> i know. >> neither was there the intention to follow the weapons on fast and furious, nor did mexico know that the united states government was allowing guns to go in the hands of the ca

>> there are 115,000 employees in the department of justice. i have ultimate responsibility for that what happens in the department. but i cannot be expected to know the details of every operation that is ongoing in the justice department on a day-to- day basis. i did not know about fast and furious, as indicated in the chart you have up there, until i guess -- well, until it became public. >> you cannot be expected to have known about the operation fast and furious, despite the fact that we know you received a ndic memo on july 5, 2010. you received another memo on fast and furious november 1, 2010. and you say it cannot be expected to have known about that? >> because of the size of your agency? >> a couple of problems with that chart, colorful as it is. ag holder received a memo -- incorrect. received recent events memo -- that is incorrect. >> those are memos with your name on it addressed to you referring to the fast and furious -- fast and furious operation? >> are you saying you did not read them quality and -- read them? >> then i did no

. >>> the obama justice department taking aim at south carolina's tough, new immigration law now which requires police to check on a suspect's immigration status. joined now by nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. pete, this is the third state now. >> third and probably not the last one. the justice department has indicated that it's looking also at recently passed state laws in utah, indiana and georgia. now, those laws are all in various stages of legal action because they've been challenged by other groups. and so, the enforcement of those laws have been to some extent interrupted by the courts, but the justice department says it still might sue them. south carolina, they say the same problem as alabama and arizona, two other states the government has sued. they say states are not free under our system to have their own immigration laws that are at odds with the federal immigration law and federal policies that try to balance a number of interests. and so, the justice department has sued seeking a court's order to block enforcement of this new south carolina law that's to t

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>> exactly. >> narrator: the justice department's lead prosecutor, rachel lieber, disputes dr.heine's allegation. and we asked director mueller to answer our questions about the fbi case. he declined to participate. w the fbi had been watching ivins at home and at work, but they still didn't have one crucial piece of evidence-- the anthrax spores they had never found in the hatfill investigation. >> it was time. they were going to have to do a search of his office, his home, his car, everything. they're looking for a spore. >> narrator: montooth knew the search would put ivins on full alert. >> at that point, we decided that we were going to do our search warrants. and that would be, really, the time when we would tip our hands to dr. ivins that we would... that we were seriously looking at him. >> narrator: but ivins' mental health was fragile. the fbi psychiatrist was warning too much pressure could push him over the edge. >> this was a middle-aged white male with concerns about his health, struggling with substance use, both in terms of prescription drugs and alcohol. this i

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pressure on as the investigation we are told is slowing down as congressional sources say the department of justices stalling and starving investigators on document and interviews they need to answer who in washington knew what and when. >> the purpose of today's event is to demand that the department of justice and the attorney general holder do the following. first, stop politicizing this operation. the victims of this firearms knows this is not a have you can or democratic problem. this is a problem the nation is fighting. >> when you have the privilege of leading the department of justice there is no excuse for not knowing what is going on, especially when it relates to something as controversial and dangerous as "operation fast & furious." but ultimately the buck stops with the president of the united states. i think it's time for the president to ask mr. holder to resign. >> reporter: 39 lawmakers have called on holder to resign as has the national rifle association. but many believe the strategy is to drag this out until march. over the last 10 months i have spoke on a lot of atf agents, cur

back now to our top story today, a top official at the department of justice today admitting at a senatehe misstated the facts about federal gun running sting operations or at least the department of justice did. back in february the justice department told congress that the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms, or atf does not let guns walk into mexico, period, it doesn't happen. now assistant attorney general lani brewer admitting to the u.s. senate that he knew that was not true, and he knew it nearly a year before that representation was made to congress when he learned about a gun-walking program, not fast and furious, but a different one called operation wide receiver. watch this. >> on february the 4th 2011 the department sent me a letter also assuring me that allegations of gun walking were untrue. it reads, quote, atf makes every effort to interdict weapons that have been purchased illegally and prevent their transportation to mexico, end of quote. that statement is absolutely false, and you admitted as much last night that you knew by april 2010 that the atf walked guns in o

there will want to the justice department obtained could not get a warrant. at that time it was against the law. >> nice to see you again, victoria. the point that you make in my view cuts the other way, and it has been made by many critics of the patriot act. there was an opportunist -- opportunistic taking advantage of people's willingness to do anything that might help fight international terrorism al qaeda to give them powers that had been seeking forever. the information indicates that these far-reaching patriot act provisions have not been used to fight international terrorism but have been using garden variety criminal cases including the ongoing war on drugs, fraud, bribery and so forth. want to move beyond latria surveillance because among a vote -- of the problems we don't have enough information. secrecy, the cloak of secrecy that has deprived even congress of sufficient information to gauge how these powers are being used. however, we do have information about other savannah's powers of the government has been using, various government agencies ha

the justice department set up a task force last year to address the problem. since then, 350 websites selling bogus goods have been shut down. clucks herman cain says he is reassessing his campaign after a new charge that he had a 13-year affair with an atlanta woman. a closer look as his love for president as his aides go back to the drawing board. and enjoying it less and less? upgrade to verizon fios and get tv, internet and phone for our best price online -- just $79.99 a month for two years with a 2 year agreement. this holiday deal is only for a limited time. so don't wait. get fios at this great price. act now and we'll add a special bonus -- $300 back. hurry, go to verizon.com/greatdeal. fios. a network ahead. contact the verizon center for customers with disabilities at 800-974-6006 tty/v. >> the ravens players learned football and the right way to play the game. tonight, there is a new field or the team's future stars complete now. rob roblin texas there. >> thanks to the baltimore ravens, classrooms, and the city of baltimore, there is a new renovat

>> $6.49. >> wow, $6 pretty close. >> 7.49. >> is this a department of justice muffin?aughter ] >> $5? >> $6. >> pretty close. >> i didn't win anything? >> he was just unlucky, that's all. one of those things. >> do you know who paid $16 for that? >> the government. >> 6.25. >> $18. >> $18. it's $6. >> really? >> well, surprises me. >> what the hell is the matter with you. >> brooklyn it would be $10 less. >> take the coffee. that's good. >> everybody, this is a robbery. >> what are you getting for breakfast. >> turkey bacon, egg whites and my coffee. >> it's a bit nutty. >> how much would you pay for a muffin. >> $3. no more than $3. >> how much does that cost. >> 8.45. >> two breakfast for 16 bucks? >> i could. >> i'm going to choose not to with you. >> we are not going to eat together. >> you want breakfast? >> are you buying? >> first i would like to butter your muffin. >> now, would you ever pay $16 for a muffin? >> no. >> well, you did. >> how's come these critters cost $16 apiece? these are some high dollar muffins that the justice department is buying. >> where

newly released e-mails from the justice department -- saying the justice department was concerned about weapons going into mexico well before the fast & furious operation. we wonder what's up with that. martha. martha: remember this young lady? got new details on this situation, a foreign spy ring, right here on american soil. we're going to tell you what we now think we know about what they were up to. bill: how about that, huh? >> herman cain denying these allegations, saying they are, quote, totally false. but what does it all mean for the cain campaign? >> let me tell you something else before i go through there, about being in the top tier of the candidates. you can all see that big bull's eye on my back? >> [laughter] that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm [ male announcer ] for half the calories -- plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8. plus veggie nutrition. you booked our room right? not yet, thanks for reminding me. wait, what? i have the hotels.com app so we can get a great deal even at the last minute. ah, well played sir. get the app. hotels.com. i'm forty-nine years-ol

the operation was conducted by the department of justice, the operation was conducted by the department of justice, which authorized the target killing of a u.s. citizen abroad. not going into the facts of that operation. i wrote to you asking for a copy of that memorandum. >> i will not address -- cannot address whether there is an opinion on this area. i understand your interest in the subject and we're committed to working with you to enter your questions in an appropriate setting to the extent that we can. >> it notified congress to defend the -- i had agree with you and i joined senator feinstein. she introduced the respect to marriage act which was repealed. running in marriage was awful -- providing a marriage was lawful. the president's provided his support. this will be considered by the committee. do you support the respect for marriage act? >> the administration does. it is consistent with the stance the government has taken. the position we took in court. the administration does support the passage of that bill. >> the vaults against women act -- the violence against women a

she was cced on a number of e-mails parts of discussions among justice department personnel, about how they would defend the healthcare statute. this is number one. she said she wanted her office to be a part of discussions. whether she was herself, we don't yet know. the justice department isn't providing the information that the senate republicans are seeking. >> shannon: some documents have been turned over but apparently they are looking for more. charles, what do you make of this? people say if you are talking about justice thomas or justice kagan those asking for recusals are doing so for political reasons to influence the outcome of the case? >> it won't surprise you to learn i think they are doing it purely for political reasons. this issue is really hot with the base of the democratic party about clarence thomas and vice versa on the republican party. boy, it's just red meat to party faith that say you have bankrupt justices on one side or the other. they've been sending fundraising efforts out about clarence thomas for a while. neither one of them should have to recuse. the i

republican congressional investigators say this new information contradicts the justice department's original letter to them earlier this year insisted that gun walking allegations were false. >> pelley: sharyl, thank you very much. a russian spy ring in america caught on video. a capsule to take astronauts into space could land hundreds of jobs on the space coast. and the star defense witness comes under fire at the trial of michael jackson's doctor when the "cbs evening news" continues. so humhad a...ty great fall. ugh, it's my sinus congestion, and it's all your fault. naturally blame the mucus. he's funny. instead of blaming me, try this, advil congestion relief. often the real problem is swelling, not mucus. advil congestion relief reduces swelling due to nasal inflammation. so i can breathe. happily ever after. another story? from him! [ mucus ] advil congestion relief. the right relief for the real problem. hut! go! here it comes! right on the numbers! boom! get it! spin! oh, nice hands! chest bump. ugh! good job, man. nice! okay, halftime. now, this is my favorite play. oh! i

the justice department inspector general, which made the original $16 muffin claim, did a thorough follow-up investigation, and the responsible use of your tax dlarps is made clear in the udit of department of justice conference planning an planningd beverage cost report. it's 151 pages proving there was no government money wasted on muffins. ( laughter ) and it is thorough, folks. it has full-colored muffin tables. look at that. appendiss, 55 footnotes, as well as analysis of the cost of beef wellington hors d'oeuvres, the clarification that a cup is equal to eight ounces, and that light refreshments are defined as coffee, tea, milk, juice, soft drinks, donuts, bagels, fruit, pretzels, cookies, chips, or muffins. ( laughter ). and i believe little-- i believe the agency seal, i believe that is scratch and sniff. ( laughter ). banana nut. ( laughter ) and for all my fellow pundits out there, eager to sniff out further government waste, hopefully the inspector general will be issuing a 300-page report investigating rumors this 150-page report on $16 muffins costs millions. we'll be right back

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he served in the justice department and at the u.s. department of energy. his work involved in advising the attorney-general and the white house and of constitutional law and statutory interpretation. he is an expert on the foreign corrupt practices act come in from 2004-2007, he served as a member of the united nations of commission under promotion and protection of human rights. he has co-authored many articles with his co-author. david ripken jr. is an attorney he has extensive experience in constitutional and administrative international law litigation, including national security related matters. he has also worked in the justice department. he has filed supreme court and appellate amicus greece in several leading post-9/11 security cases and is a frequent contributor in guest on national television networks. our moderators are steeped in the subjects today. stuart taylor jr., a lawyer, reporter, author, and prolific writer for national publications. he covered the supreme court for the new york times in the mid- 1980s. the subject of terrorism, civil

really very twenty three or whatever it is we had it nailed when you brought up obama in the justice department i knew i was going to be on the other side of this and i can't. but. i don't know as i know it will read the terms of service of anything we all turn up a lot because you have to do anything when no one's ever read it and if you do read it you can find out that you violate the terms of service a little i think i mean i don't even know google had terms of service but apparently they're saying that if you let me have all this so i have according to the interpretation the way they're going about this that means that. i was a very psychic google terms of service to play that if you're not of legal age to form a binding contract with going forbidding from using any of the sites or services so the legal age of consent there is eighteen so basically if you're a seventeen year old who conducts a google search or you're researching a term paper then you're also now a criminal court so you know it's one of the. that's actually the most and same thing i've heard all day well hopefully that there

not only creepy predators that go after teenagers can be caught get in trouble because the justice department wants to make it a federal crime and it's out there to make it really complicated and i don't make a federal crime to violate the terms of service of any website but basically that can mean that if you're on facebook and you lie about the way you look or your name or something like that or if you're a match dot com and you lie about your weight technically you're violating the terms of service so basically there are a lot of people out there that are now going to be criminals because they obviously completely lie about themselves when it comes to dating profile including the to catch a predator crew because they go online and lie and say i was well here's all that really very twenty three or whatever other thing we had it nailed when you brought up obama in the justice department i knew i was going to bring the other side of this and i can't. but. i don't know as i know it will read the terms of service of anything we all kind of like because you have to do anything when no one's ever

files, but until yesterday, very few documents from the department of justice's own files. the department waited to deliver them until halloween to produce the first substantial batch of documents from the department of justice, even though we asked for documents at the beginning of the summer. they also waited until the night before the head of the criminal division, lani brewer, was set to testify before the judiciary committee to provide 652 pages of documents. mr. brewer also admitted to knowing all about gun walking and -- in what's referred to as operation wide receiver as far back as april, 2010. now, we have to go through these new documents to see what they contain, but the first smaller batch of documents include several memos to attorney general holder that appear to contradict the attorney general's earlier claim that he had never heard of fast and furious until sometime april this year. the documents also show that attorney general holder's current chief of staff received a detailed briefing 18 months ago, march of 2010. he was the acting deputy attorney general

by the way what office does he hold in the department of justice? >> keys for the criminal division. >> why would he knowing as he did back in july of 2010 near the operation fast and furious allow a letter that went out on the department stationery february 4th, 2011 why would he want a letter that was false to the present position of the department justice? >> kristoff the briefing that was about white receiver that will send about fast and furious. >> do you know the difference between wide receiver and fast and furious? they are different operations. >> so do you know the differences, the factual differences between wide receiver and fast and furious? >> there are a number of differences both in scope and in terms of time. the bush administration is the one does start at wide receiver, the obama administration is where fast and furious began. >> are you winning this or do you actually know? do you know wide receiver was done in conjunction with the government of mexico and the intention of the plan was to follow the weapons, and neither was there

new information on the justice department knew about a controversial tactic of letting guns get in todrug cartels in mexico and other criminals. there wasn't just "operation fast and furious" but earlier "operation wide receiver." newly released documents suggest the head of the justice department's criminal division learn about that previous operation as early as april of last year. he only recently brought it to the attention of attorney, general eric holder. lanny brower testified today. >> i was involved this exercise and as all of this has come to light, in thinking about it, i should have back in april 2010 drawn that connection, i've expressed that regret first personally to the attorney general of the united states and then i determined that i should do it publicly, as well. >> he says he simply didn't draw a connection between the two gun programs. the programs that gained the most attention is "fast and furious." it's where weapons sold in the u.s. were allowed to fall in to the hands of mention call drug cartels in the hope of tracking them to the most violent members. didn

today we are joined by representatives from the department of justice, the treasury department and those who are well-positioned to discuss the threats we face from foreign criminals if taken and what we in congress can do to provide law enforcement with the tools it needs to confront this challenge. protecting american citizens and business from foreign criminals is no partisan issue members in congress in both parties agree that we must strengthen our ability as a nation to take down these overseas criminals. our ranking member senator qaeda was unfortunately not able to join us today because of his important commitment on that committee but i greatly enjoyed collaborating with him this year on the legislation concerning cybersecurity and of other hearings and i look forward to working with him and other members of the committee on this important issue. since there is no one immediately present to make further opening statements, we can get right to the meat of the hearing which is always a good thing. i would just go right across the panel beginning with -- and breuer, the assistant a

>> the justice department has a responsibility. we have a responsibility to insure that every american has the right to vote. new rules, regulations, laws put into place that will suppress the ability of people to vote -- all of us want to make sure there is no thought in our elections, whichever party by perpetrate it and which every issue is disadvantaged by that. we believe there are efforts going on in this country that will adversely affect people's ability to vote in this country by the use of various different devices. we believe the justice department needs to focus on those an act which is these suppression in the actions being taken. >> will democrats to retake the house next year? >> i think we will. the polls show that we are doing much better than our opponents. the american public is rightfully concerned that the congress of the united states has been unable to deal with the pressing issues confronting this country. number 1 is jobs. the president submitted a jobs bill to the senate. senator reid put that bill on the

that's this saturday last week the attorneys filed a lawsuit accuse the department of justice of violatingous agreement that lets states regulate medicinal marijuana. the u.s. attorney's office has not ed. >>> honda's human shaped robot has become more human. the newest version was department strayed in tokyo yesterday. the robot can run faster balance on uneven surfaces hop on one foot and almost think on its own. the robot even opened a thermos and poured a drink. also able to distinguish the voices of three people speaking at once. >> close your windows and doors the advice being given to some folks in the east bay. oil spill triggered a smell that is making people sick. >> amy hollyfield is live in the area with details. sick. she has been smelling this four or five days. she frustrated. she was on her way to work and glad to be going to work to glad to be going to work to sulphur rotten egg stink in the air here in concord. the advice is get out of the area and get fresh air or stay inside if it bothers you. this is because of a crude oil pipeline on the naval weapons station that spi

the justice department has released an email in which saying and told a justice department colleague, and i'm quote w-g, it was amazing that democrats appeared to have the votes to pass healthcare reform. and there in lies the big problem here. saying and thought it was amazing. democrats were about to pass obamacare. your reaction to her opinion, which by the way she was not in a position to be giving. >> julie the fact that she thinks it's amazing does not suggest she is biased one way or the other insofar as the case is concerned. maybe it was amazing. even if she said it was a good thing doesn't necessarily mean that she could not handle this case impartially. the real question is, did she actively participate in the dense of obamacare? was she out campaigning for it? that would clearly be tkpwroudz for recusagrounds for recusal and one would assume that she would. julie: federal law requires recusal from a case if a judicial officer has served in governmental program and in such capacity has served as counsel, adviser, or expressed an opinion concerning the merit of the particula

the justice department is now trying to stop an immigration crackdown in utah.he feds say it is unconstitutional. >>trace: installing a christmas tree nidal malik hasan arresteds -- nidal malik hasan arresteds when you use a helicopter. unbelievable. unbelievable. the video is from new zealand and the helicopter snapped in half and smashed into the ground, and the new zealand herald reports the pilot was installing a 7-story christmas tree when the rotor hit some support cables and you can see it hit. bam! a new zealand television station reports that the pilot, amazingly, says he is doing fine. after that crash. >> i'm trace gallagher here forship on "studio b" with bad weather on the busiest travel weekend of the year, 42 million expected to drive, fly, or train to the thanksgiving destination according to aaa but, already, reports of significant delays. a fast-moving weather system dumped rain and snow up and down the eastern seaboard and flash flood warnings for some spots along interstate 95. and now, live in the fox weather station. >>reporter: it could be

the companies are already facing opposition from the justice department. it has sued to stop the deal, citing anti-trust issues. the fcc hearing would come at the end of the anti-trust trial. professional golf is not taking a break for the thanksgiving holiday. the game heads to china for its next tournament. the $7.5 million purse is a small fraction of the $62 billion generated annually by the entire golf industry. in tonight's "beyond the scoreboard," rick horrow caught up with golfer mark o'meara recently to talk about how the business is changing and the difference winning masters made on his career. prior to 98 i won tournaments around the world and had a nice successful career. i think what it did for me is put the icing on the cake in my professional career. it certainly, the exposure factor of winning a major championship. the marketing aspect helps. you got lexus, callaway and titlists all over yourself. you're pretty good in the board room too, aren't you. >> i think i have a good relationship with people. i love people so it's eyes for me. i ha

under his leadership the justice department last month foiled an assassination attempt in the united states of the saudi ambassador to the united states and prevented a major act of terrorism on u.s. soil. last week four men in georgia were arrest inside a domestic terrorism plot accused of planning to use guns, bombs and toxic poison rye sip to kill -- ricin to kill federal and state officials. and earlier this year the christmas day bomber was convicted in federal court, pled guilty and faces a possible life sentence. we have to insure we do all we can to bring terrorists to justice by providing the administration with a full array of authorities in the counterterrorism efforts. in my view and the view i know is shared by the director of national as well as and the attorney general is, of course, short-sighted for the congress to hamstring those efforts. as we proceed, we should remember that between september 11th, 2001 and -- [inaudible] 438 isn'ts were -- suspects were charged in federal court. 438. now, at the same time five have been -- six have been convicted in military comm