because you figure eight years of damage has to take 16 years to fix, longly, i would think. it's much easier to -- somebody i think it was mr. spock said it's far easier to destroy than to create. >> it's true. >> you have to allow a lot more time. there steams so be this revisionist history that somehow this haul startsed after obama got elected. >> isn't the problem -- >> it was horrible many years before that. >> isn't the problem that obama came along as the new messiah. >> the expectation were high. >> if you didn't agree with what george bush and many americans didn't, it didn't matter because hope, change, audacity had arrived. >> people were desperate. >> the reality is it doesn't work like that as he's found out. are you disappointed by obama or do you feel he couldn't do much more? >> the only thing i'm disappointed about -- on the whole, i'm not disappointed i don't think anyone else would have any better luck given the obstructionism that the policy op obstructionism by the right wing right now. before the guy can even- he takes a breath before he can say the fir