and now joining us is ami pedahzur. he is the author of this book, the israeli secret services and the struggle against terrorism. professor, first off, what are the israeli secret services? >> well, the israeli secret services is a very illusive body of various organizations including the branches of the military, the internal security service, the equivalent of the fbi in the united states. the mossad which is the equivalent to the cia and within the army, we have the intelligence branch, which is doing pretty much whatever nsa is doing here in the u.s. >> how -- what is their working philosophy when it comes to counterterrorism? >> well, that's a very interesting question because it's a working philosophy of trial and error. and terrorism -- unlike other types of warfare is very, you know, surprising. and it's not the kind of threat that militaries are using to deal with. what happened in israel over the years is that terrorism took an increasing role in a public domain and became not a strategic threat to the israel

>> ami pedahzur is a professor at university of texas where he teaches government and middle eastern studies and is the author of this book, "the israeli secret services and the struggle against terrorism" he joins us at the university of texas at austin. the interview is part of the tedious college series. it's about half hour. postcode "quest for equality," the failed promise of black, brown solidarity is the name of the book. university of texas history professor, neil foley is the author. professor foley, what was the good neighbor policy amount of it to your book? >> guest: that's a good question because in some way that affirms entire book. a good neighbor policy is genuinely consider to be the work of president franklin delano roosevelt who in his inaugural lecture as in 1933 of the united states is going to become a good neighbor in this hemisphere. now he didn't spell out exactly what that meant, but certainly everybody in latin america understood what that meant. at least if you're going to be a good neighbor, does this mean you're going to stop using dollar diplomacy and y