everyone was just touting spotify. >> the upside is more choices. you can upload it. google plus, the social network that google owns you can share songs for free, let friends listen in before they buy. >> has google worked out the deal so you can also buy music through this service. >> that's right. you can buy directly through the service and it's added to your online cloud so you can stream into devices. warner's catalogue is missing from the service as well. >> but everything but warner. that's missing from the service. let's talk something that's kind of related here. there used to be used records and cd stores everywhere, but digital music downloads are killing them off. is it true there's now a way to sell your used music files? >> well that's the hope. the ria certainly hopes not, but there's a new service called redigy. >> wait a minute. you sell it back to the company. you can't sell it to someone else for a cheaper price. you sell it back to the company, correct? >> you sell it back to redigy and they act like a dim tall marketplace like used cds and others

and since then, some of the music services that are out there,spotify has grown from a little more than 3 million users with facebook to now more than 7 million users with facebook. another service called mog has grown from i think it's a relatively small number of subscribers but it has grown four or five times in the last mth alone. and i think what that just shows is that all of these different products are better when are you doing them with your friends. think about it, dow want to go to the movies with yourself or with your friends. >> rose: or dow want to know what your friends like rather than a whole different matrix. >> the wisdom of crowds to the wisdom of friends. rose: the wisdom of crowds that is google versus facebook right there. >> i don't think it's google versus facebook. >> rose: the wisdom of crowds versus the wisdom of friends. >> i think the wisdom of crowds applies not just to google but a phase of the web which is about information and about links. and it was a lot of wonderful things. mostly based on an nimity and links between crowds. what does the crowd think

. >> you mentioned spotify and i wanted to ask the question. you're the one, and that was pete townsend's a month or so ago his lecture where he called apple and itunes a digital vampire and said more broadly that silicon valley needs to do more to nurture artists. what was your reaction to that? >> so, i view that as an understandable emotional response by somebody who would like to think that the things that he created 40 years ago are as valuable today as they were 40 years ago. very few things people created 40 years ago that are more valuable than they were then. >> but one of those things? >> so, here is my view. technology is a pendulum. before 1984 and the mcintosh. the best thing you could do is green print against a black screen. everything was the same. dolby invests post script and desktop publishing and for 12 years the focus of technology was increasing production valus and making things look great. the pendulum swings the other way. then in 2006, apple comes out with the iphone and we start the pendulum back the other way. we hav

we want to listen to music on the iphone or through apple or through spotify or anything they want. we want them to watch movies anywhere. we just want facebook to be how they share wherever they are. so we do one thing which is we have this huge partnership strategy and it makes us i think pretty different than many of the other companies. >> just take the movies thing as an example. >> we don't care where you watch. >> the biggest movies companies are netflix and hulu building building on our platform. and hulu is on the t.v. side. but people can share all kinds of videos they're watching. you can see the top things your friends are watching. could go to your profile or timeline and if you want you can have a box up there, what are the t.v. shows that you watch the most and i can click on it, it will take know the hulu app d i n start watching that. that think is powerful the piece facebook is doing is saying okay, we're friends and allowing you to share that... i want to express to people what are the t.v. shows that i like and now facebook is giving me a place to go see what you

and since then, some of the music services that are out there, spotifi has grown from a little more than 3 million users with face bok to now more than 7 million users with facebook. >> rose: we conclude with joan didion's memoir of her late daughter, it is called blue knight. >> it is not a narrative. the only book i have really written that was to the a narrative, it was entirely different way of writing a book. >> rose: presidential politics, greek debt, a look ahead at facebook and mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg and joan dion when we continue. funding for arlie rose was provided by the following. >> from our studios in new york city this is charlie rose. we begin this evening with a look at presidential politics. we turn first to the allegations surrounding republican presidential candidate herman cain. last week "politico" reported that cain sexually hassed two women when head of the national restauran assoation in the 1990s. kane has dend the charges describing them as a witch-hunt. one of the women who filed complaint ma a statement to her attorney today. she alleges a series

there are services like spotify does everything itunes does but for far less money. google launched the look inside service. it's like street view only inside a business. businesses have to sign up to take part. google will not take pictures unless it's asked to. we missed the look inside part of the gary denko. we'll show you the pictures later. >> it's kind of cool. >> you can see what they've got for sale. >> christmas is coming, jon. >> we'll keep that in mind. still to come on "today in the bay", pointing the finger. the san francisco sheriff's department says it wasn't their deputy that injured an iraqi war veteran during the occupy oakland protest. >> if you want to hit the beach today, you can do so comfortably. i'm forecasting 80s in some beach cities. break out the umbrella by the latter section of the week. we're talking cold wet weather through the weekend. your forecast st coming up. >>> i continue to track the building backup through oakland as the lo blocks a number oaf lanes for 880. [ female announcer ] when something isn't right, you like to take ca