i put that down to the inexperience of andy corson who didn't have a sure editorial hand. first thing an editor asks when brought a story is how do you know and where did you get it? i got it from a phone hack. want a listen? so if you can actually play that tape that says, you know, meet me at midnight. we'll have -- or in the case of one of these stories, tackling you into the ground and have my way with you. you can hear that from the horse's mouth himself. you know that you're not going to get sued. remember elton john took the lines, and if you don't absolutely know you're not going to get sued for 5 story that you run, and so i would put mr. corson's inexperience at the requiring that degree of proof and not just letting the story run because we had the experience to know that actually you probably wouldn't get sued for that, so instead of it became common place and it was not too badly done. >> i see. so he goes on to say when making a short film for the bbc one show on phone hacking, i interviewedded mr. mcmullan, and some of the remarks were not broadcast on the a

legal manager of news international top crime, and news of the world editor, the former editor, andy corson, and the chairman of news international, all of them told us that there had been a thorough investigation, no evidence had been found that anybody else was involved. clearly, that's not correct. were any of them lying to this committee? >> the -- mr. chairman, the company relieded -- relied on three things for a period of time up until the new evidence emerged. the company relied on a police investigation in 2007, and this was before we went back to the area, this is before i was involved. i became back involved in news corporation and news international at the end of 2007. in the 2007 period, there was a police investigation, successful prosecutions were brought against two individuals, and the editor of the news of the world resigned, and the company relied on the police having closed the investigation and repeated assertions there was no new evidence for them to reopen the investigation. the company relied on the pcc, which had had a report that had said there was nothing more to t

i put that down to the inexperience of andy corson who didn't have a sure editorial hand. first thing an editor asks when brought a story is how do you know and where did you get it? i got it from a phone hack. want a listen? so if you can actually play that tape that says, you know, meet me at midnight. we'll have -- or in the case of one of these stories, tackling you into the ground and have my way with you. you can hear that from the horse's mouth himself. you know that you're not going to get sued. remember elton john took the lines, and if you don't absolutely know you're not going to get sued for 5 story that you run, and so i would put mr. corson's inexperience at the requiring that degree of proof and not just letting the story run because we had the experience to know that actually you probably wouldn't get sued for that, so instead of it became common place and it was not too badly done. >> i see. so he goes on to say when making a short film for the bbc one show on phone hacking, i interviewedded mr. mcmullan, and some of the remarks were not broadcast on the a