he shares a cell with his younger half-brother, david carr. >> we have got in trouble together. if he decided he wanted to do something i would go behind him and be like all right. let's go, then. >> keep doing this [ bleep ] be a domestic battery case. i swear to god. >> i got it. >> i will be up for clemency by the time you figure it out. >> carr has been in and out of prison on minor drug charges for ten years. this time he is in for dealing meth. the prosecutors had enough of him as well. >> they said if i went to trial and convicted by a jury, they would give me 85 years. they just gave chas 72 years. so i knew they weren't screwing around. i signed the plea bargain. >> i know you are distraught because "days of our lives" isn't on now. >> even with the plea bargain he got 35 years. >> that's what you get for betting. >> i need gamblers anonymous. carr says he sold drugs not just to support his addiction but to support his brother. >> chas was arrested and i started paying for his legal fees. i was paying for his attorney with drug money. >> i feel like it's my fault. i fee

hopefully i'll see you soon. >> david carr, man, you already know how i feel about you.t's going to suck when you leave. but right now the goal is to make sure you hit the streets. so keep your head up. try not to -- i'll try not to skitz out while you're gone.

host: david carr writes about the media for the "new york times," and he writes about steve jobs this morning in his column, the media equation. new rules for the way we watch. here's what he says about steve jobs -- host: have your media habits changed a lot in the past year? guest: no. i don't know how to text. host: you're going to have to define it for some people. guest: well, no one knows. we embody the best of the past. host: next is a phone call from sterling, virginia. this is gary, republican. you're on the air. caller: thank you. good morning. i'd like to say, i think it's the death of subservience. and one thing, shout out to renee in dothan. but the egyptians and middle easterners, the bravery seems to know no bounds. i mean, the things that these people are going up in the name of freedom to all my egyptian friends, i'd say mahaba. and i think it would be wise to take a page from the rwandan reconciliation, because that was the most civil display of humanity i have ever seen, read about or heard about. and the other thing is about the civil citizens united. i always thou