mr. ginsler has recused himself? it the pointer good ones, but i'm not entirely sure with the basis of the recusal is. >> i am not familiar with the basis. he had ever accuse the letter, but that is the limit of my understanding. >> the last question, which is in some ways almost rhetorical, and i think probably everyone in here, chairman, ranking member come i'm not sure you are in a position, but on behalf of that farmers and the agricultural sector, investors all of the country, we need to know how soon begin give -- we can give answers back. >> that is our number one priority. we're working closely with the trustee to make sure it happens as soon as possible. >> i appreciate your desire to get that done, but my question is the number of co-ops would ask me to give them an estimate, what could i tell them? they need to buy seed, land, equipment right now for the next crop year. >> people should be getting -- assuming the court approves our motion, another $2 billion short lean which would get them up to 69%-70%. u