is being rough, and fights are starting, and nobody comes -- and argentinian paintball -- pat -- pittbull. i wish dog walkers were not being so vilified because i think we provide a good service, and thank you very much. president: thank you. next speaker. clerk: [reading names] >> before we move on, the director is your, rebecca cavs, in case we have any questions. -- the director is here, rebecca cat -- katz. >> this originated back in 2003. in 2007, it came before the animal welfare commission, and we came up with a proposal that you have copies of, and again, it then went to recreation and park to administer and figure out how to do it. they did nothing. now it has come back, and people have talked to scott, and he has pushed this for, so this is something that has been in the work for a long time. there was a hearing at the dog advisory committee, and admittedly eight years ago in some cases, but it has been on the radar for some time. it came to the commission that to a large extent people wanted to make sure that people understood that this was an actual profession. there is kind o