what bothered me -- it was not only the people hitting rodney king -- but it was the other 19, 20 officers who stood around and did nothing. and allowed it to go on. that bothered me as much. and i was a police chief at the time. one of the things a new chief and parents is the department culture -- inherits is the department culture, which chief suhr is working with, whether you come from internally or externally. sometimes cultures change. what bothers me is when we see evidence like we saw, we can tell the numbers of officers who were allegedly involved in that and put that against the numbers of officers there are in this bay area region or nationally. but it makes good press. and so, what we do is -- including me -- we paid with that broad a brush. i understand what. it is perception, and truth is only 10% fat and 90% perception. -- fact and 90% perception. what do we do to prevent it? we start teaching what our expectations are in the academy. we reinforce those expectations, not just to the academy, but throughout every single daily -- every day, every hour, every minute. this is wh

and then in april of 1992, the results of the rodney king trial were announced. as a result of the result of the trial, we had the largest riot history. we had 300 people killed, 3000 people wounded. and we found ourselves, two days later, with the first win division in the seventh infantry division in los angeles to quell the riots. and we discovered that all the individual cities had their on police and fire departments, but none of them had communications that they could talk to each other. so we had to provide the interoperable communications. but we also had a huge a language pis when you tell a fireman fire, that is a different meaning than when you tell a marine fire. so the whole exchange of lexicon and working together, the importance of that, i said personally i would never liked this -- never like to see this kind of situation happen again. it really turns out that the military was actually put in charge of that operation. and i think it was not good for the relationships in the count of los angeles or anything else. so i said, never again. well, this

president stands to-- a number of theories of governance that we could all reason together, the rodney king approach, which and i think underlying this, judy, is not simply barack obama as harry truman populist which i think raises questions of authenticity, because by temperament the president is not a natural populist. it is an college of collegement that the republican party has moved incredibly far to the right. my evidence of that is the debates in the presidential race when chris wallace asked a simple question-- "will you accept $10 in spending cuts for $1in tax increases? all of them, including jon hunts map, said no, no, they wouldn't do that. that's an acknowledgment, i think, in the president's speech that there is no point in trying to reason. they've given on positions they've long held as a party, including the payroll tax suspension. just simply because they're opposing the president. so i think-- i think david's absolutely right. there are going to be two questions voters ask in 2012-- is it working-- that is is the obama economy-- and is it fair? and i think he obviously wa

why you see him station we all have a rodney king moment here and get along and focus on obama ads as the target as opposed to each other. it gives him built in the time to get the organization in place and not spend resources meaning a response ad that he doesn't want to spend to bat back the noise he is hearing from the right. >> the final question to both of you. one word answers only please. donald trump hassing issed that he may indeed throw his had into the ring if he is dissatisfied with the field. we know that something like 78% of republican voters don't feel enamored by this. michael, does donald trump enter the race? >> no. >> david? >> i bet you $10,000 he doesn't. >> david doesn't have $10,000 so that bet is rendered worthless. >> thanks very much indeed. >> next a critical vote on capitol hill and we are heading for the four-letter word, veto. stay with us. [ male announcer ] juice drink too watery? ♪ feel the power my young friend. mmm! [ male announcer ] for unsurpassed fruit and veggie nutrition... v8 v-fusion. could've had a v8. is best absorbed in small continuous a

riots over the rodney king verdict, quote, order was only restored in l.a.it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks. and, aides can be transmitted by saliva. ron paul told cnn in 2008 he didn't write them, he doesn't faux who did. his campaign is totally disavowed the comments. what does this mean for someone who is ascended. >> he is polling in the 21% if iowa is a bit of a anomaly but still the same buy that left the republican party, has been outside the mainstream and is doing well. i'm not any great scholar of hierarchy of code words but newt gingrich is on the trail today calling barack obama a food stamp president. >> the good news for america is that ron paul will never be president. the bad news for the republican party is that a fifth of republican primary goers in iowa think that he ought to be. what does that say about the state of the republican party? >> there is great fear among the republican party that ron paul may take iowa. >> if he does win the iowa caucus it does show how irrelevant the iowa caucus has thus become. it's

think back to rodney king, but for a video with any of us know or believe that our police would do something like this but they do sometimes. >>pam: but this time bart got a victory. >> they absolutely got one in this one. >>catherine: herman cain says he must have a face-to- face meeting with his wife gloria and that will be tomorrow everything may hinge on her. that is a photograph of gloria cain. this will be the first meeting since and the lead woman came forward and said that she and her mccain had a lengthy affair. he has denied it but he did not said he had given the woman monetary--lomond money. >>catherine: they won't let that was a state employee at the time was played about $2,000 in 2007 for riches since allies. for bill richardson allies. there is an investigation to see if he broke any laws. now penn state students receive this letter if it please consider joining, this is damage control following the child sex abuse scandal involving the former football jerry sandusky. penn state now said it will donate $1.5 million in money raised from its superbowl games to groups that work

the most often cited case is the rodney king beating case.h acquitted in the simi valley state court trial they were held, two of them at least, criminally responsible in the federal court case. do you see it move in that direction? criminal charges for assault and battery? >> no, i don't see that, gregg. >> gregg: why not? >> pepper spray is a weapon. it's an arsenal they have at their disposal. >> gregg: that was definition of assault and battery. >> i hear you, gregg, but if a police officer perceives that there is a dangerous situation -- >> gregg: how could you perceive danger? >> you are talking about objectively. i'm talk about subjective. by using the pepper spray -- >> there is no danger there. a child wouldn't perceive danger. kisha? >> i think there will be criminal charges filed. because that force was absolutely excessive. in the other cases there have been criminal charges filed those cases. >> gregg: good to see you both. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> heather: the iowa caucuses if you can believe it, just around