i think rossin is one of them. c-span: why would that be? >> guest: i am not exactly sure probably is methodology. i'm not exactly sure about that. but in general, in terms of methodology the like live interview polls. so if a person uses a kind of rolling you don't know who is on the phone, so they don't like those sorts of polls. they don't like internet polling. and these are all valid reasons for not doing this. so there are some that you can kind of look at for reference and then try to find someone who has called live and see if that works out, but there's some that we just don't use. c-span: is very stable base that you will not use? and other words if they only had 500 people call on the phone, does that trip certain things versus 1200 people that they talk to in person? >> guest: we kind of one over 1,000. you want -- and when you look at who is called, hopefully they've broken down by kind of race, age, ideology. and you want it to be somewhat representative. it isn't always perfect, but close to a representative of the population

it's good because the leverage will increase your gains on rising us at markets but in fact this rossin debt that's cause is the rising us of markets speak of course in a positive feedback loop the trick is to this unbelievable level of profit to three hundred percent of g.d.p. was the peak america picked up it's now folding drastically public debt is less than one third that level even now. so it's the private debt bubble that caused all the trouble in the roaming slang there and and now what we're seeing is this on wanting to win the front of city generates that much did they get enormous political power as well and breaking at the mention takes forever we have to get to the star age where a publication has the guts and courage and independence that roosevelt had back in the not in thirty's to say putting the banks in the dog window putting him in the driver's seat take the banks out of the drivers you know that's about oh sorry go ahead. bill black needs to be that somebody had the guts to take them on during the lunch process you know somebody like that and you need a politician to