>> yes. >> bill: i'm not saying wycliff jean is guilty of anything.saying it's chaos and i said that from the very beginning. >> one of the companies that got a bunch of the dough is related to him. it's like owned by his brother-in-law. >> bill: yeah. >> he got in trouble years ago for giving money to some television station that he ran and his cousin ran. so it's sort of self dealing, which doesn't smell good when you're talking about charity. >> bill: you want to make a prediction whether he'll be indicted, wycliff jean? >> he's not going to be indicted? >> bill: you don't think so? >> this is not enough evidence. >> bill: shouldn't somebody be investigating it? >> other than the post? i don't know. i don't know if they've got it, bill. because their biggest complaint that there is a bunch of money that hasn't been accounted for. the charity has come out and said, first of all, wycliff is gone, and secondly, all that money is still sitting in the coffe are, s -- >> bill: they have to prove they didn't mismanage it. >> and it's true of the red cross