alex winder is considered one of the world's most competent cardiac surgeons pioneered an artificial heart design in europe and was the first european to land planted in tokyo much more than two decades ago dr created the european academy of sciences and arts it has developed into a global think tank on ethical and scientific values that brings together intellectual elite from all over the world. are welcome to the show thank you thank you very much i love coming well first of all you want academy called both the academy of sciences and academy of arts well for example in russia this sounds strange because we have the russian academy of sciences and the russian academy of arts and has been. for this what for centuries to be like that in many other countries so why many combining. is it an attempt to re and i these two men if the stations of human spirit. thank you very much for the very interesting question we seal is obvious when we see these scientists and art is one entity it's. also a part of the sciences we hear a lot of bird how we did take it's all to say mission isn't inquiry