. >> guest: ewell, i do think this, the measure of unity they have, i think one of the reasons they have it is because they're not defining their demands. i've seen some of their 13 demands, and i'm sure some of those folks who are tea party types would not be in favor of those demands. so i think there's no question about it, ralph, i agree with the fundamental premise of the occupy wall street folks which is, look, these fellas up here played the highest stakes poker game in the world. they had a great time, they made billions of dollars. then all of a sudden they were wiped out, and they ran to uncle and said give us back our chips. and uncle gave 'em back his chips. now, that plan again, and they got the bonuses, and everybody out in middle america is suffering. you've got 9% unemployment and 16% probably active unemployed and those searching for work. and so i share the exasperation and the anger and the rage at that inequity and injustice. but, again, when you come to an agenda, i think you will find they break down ideologically. and i think they will. and also, ralph, i think as