>> oh, maybe josiah wedgwood. >> who was? >> he was a ceramics maker, china maker in england, and he took a very lazy kind of organized set of pottery workers, potteries in england, all little workshops. he brought them together. he -- he made this lovely china. the queen of russia wanted 1,000 plates with different scenes from greek mythology on them. and he was just desperate because he didn't have the artists to produce it. he did finally produce the order. but then he realized, i need to have a school and i need to get gifted teenagers to begin to design and paint. so, you know, he's like walton or ford or one of these people that see the industry whole from the very beginning of making it, the product, and then market in it. ford would have to be another one. ford not only did he see the possibility of a cheap car, but he saw the possibility of selling his own cars. he set up 7,000 dealerships by 1910 i think. so, i think that's the really impressive capitalist is where you have the integration of the whole system in one

in fact, it's a material called black basalt, which was developed by josiah wedgwood in the 18th centuryed it for making wares: vases and so on, but it's continued in wedgwood production. and it's a wonderful material when it works well. when it's sculptural like this, i think it's actually quite exciting. the sculptor here, stephan sinding 1889. he was scandinavian, and he died in 1922, born in 1846. he's quite well known. he won a gold medal at the paris exhibition. he was a painter as well, and he was quite an important man. my guess is -- i've never seen this model before -- i think it would have been made in pretty limited numbers. what the title is, i don't know. "two people in love." you've had it translated! i come from denmark. oh, really?! it was given to us while we was home on holiday in denmark. there was two old ladies who had it, and my family, my parents was really fond of that family, and we used to go there. every time we was in denmark, we also had to go and visit them. one day when we were sitting 'round the coffee table, this old lady came up and she said to my husba