recently, the president of kendall jackson wine in california got down in the trenches to see what lifelatest "undercover boss." >> one case right there. >> okay. >> you got to push it forward. >> yeah, i got it. i got it. >> there you go. >> that was my fault. i keep an eye over there. >> keep going. keep going. >> all right, all right, all right. i got it. a little clumsy here. >> i'll do it my way so you can see. >> woo, double. >> the boss man is rick tigner. he joins us now. >> great to be here. >> what did you learn? >> i learned a lot. going undercover gave me a great opportunity to really see the passion and commitment, you know, that we have with our employees. i have this one concept i call look, listen, and learn. it really is, you know, a lot of bosses want to go to meetings and want to talk a lot. i think you get more from your employees if you actually give them a voice and listen to what they have to say. going undercover for me gave me a great opportunity not just to, you know, see the passion and commitment, but actually just to hear their stories. >> did you learn thin