st. louis was kind of the kicking-off point for the west. questions over here. yes, sir. >> this is, this is a hypothetical question. do you think if gold were discovered at sutter's mill five years earlier, it would have been impossible to wrest california away from mexico? >> you must have been at that, where was that last -- same question. it's a good question. well, if they discovered gold at sutter's mill five weeks earlier, then to settle the war the mexicans would have turned california loose knowing there was that much gold there. my answer, again, it's a hypothetical question, hypothetical answer. my answer is, no, because the americans, the whole american army was sitting in the middle of mexico city. i mean, they were finished. santa ana's army had disbanded, they didn't have anything left to fight with. and the same was true with the californians of mexican descent in california, they had been subdued by the u.s. navy and and fremont and the california battalion. they wouldn't have wanted to, but they didn't have much choice at that point, i don't think. anybody else over here? yes, ma'am. >> your next door neighbor in fairhope, alabama, is a good frie