individual ways and to ground it in a better understanding of biology and illness which is truly biopsychosocial, but which has much to be learned about its manifestations and interactions. >> i guess -- ms. veasley? yes. >> thank you. i certainly don't deny that my emotional health or anyone else that suffers with pain affects my ability to effectively cope with both the physical suffering and the effects of pain on my life. but while i was hit by a car and nearly died, my pain has never been questioned by any medical provider. but this is not the experience of the average pain patient in our country. and i would just put out there that there is many examples in medical history, for example, ulcers that were one attributable to stress and inability to emotionally cope that we now know answers to. their cause is a bacteria. and just because we do not understand yet due to the inadequate research effort that we've had, the mechanisms and risks that result in chronic pain do not mean it is made up in your mind and is not real. thank you. >> if i might respond, i think what dr. sarno was saying, an

individual ways and to ground it in a better understanding of biology and illness which is truly biopsychosocial but which has much to be learned about and it's very manifestations and actions. >> i guess, yes. >> thank you. i certainly don't deny that my emotional health or anyone else that suffers with pain affects my ability to effectively cope with both the physical suffering and the effects of pain on my life. but while i was hit by a car and nearly died, my pain has never been questioned by any medical provider. this is not the experience of the average pain patient in our country. and i would just put out there that there are many examples in medical history. for example ulcers that were once attributable to stress and inability to emotionally cope that we now know answers to. their cause is bacteria and just because we do not understand yet due to the inadequate research effort that we have had, the mechanisms and the risks that result in chronic pain does not mean that it's made up in your mind and it is not real. thank you. >> if i might respond i think what dr. sarno was saying and i