. >> after burke marshall. >> and you named him john burke doar. >> right. >> where is he today? >> i had breakfast with him, he drove back to his job in hartford, connecticut, he came down for that event last night. >> i want to run some audiotape, a conversation with j. edgar hoover, head of the fbi, and the president, lyndon baines johnson, you had become the assistant attorney general for civil rights, you moved up a notch. >> right. >> and we'll listen to a little bit of this and you can explain to people what they're hearing. >> mr. president -- >> yeah. >> -- i wanted to let you know we found the car. >> yeah. >> now, this is not known. nobody knows this at all. but the car was burned. and we do not know yet whether any bodies are inside of the car because of the intense heat that still is in the area of the car. the license plates on the car are the same that was on the car that was in philadelphia, mississippi, yesterday. and apparently this is off to the side of the road. it wasn't going toward meridian, but it was going in the opposite direction. now, whether there are

burke marshall, a lot of the professors served with distinction and the kennedy justice department said that these four judges, dr. specht mentioned them including judge johnson had made as much of an imprint on american society and american law as any four judges below the supreme court had ever done in history. so if you look at these kinds of

marshall and i'm standing. >> and what was your role at that time? >> i was the first assistant to burke in the civil rights division. >> what's your memory of burt marshall? >> my memory of burt he was a terrific lawyer, the best i've never known. a person like burt marshall comes around once every 6en600 years. >> how about bobby kennedy? >> he was terrific. the first day that bobby kennedy came into office, he was committed to doing something about the discrimination in voting. >> am i guessing right that you were about 40 years old in that picture? >> that's right. >> let's go to the next still shot, and you're there on the right. who's on the right and who's in the middle in? >> the chief u.s. marshal is on the left, and james meredith is in the middle. it's a shot sometime when meredith entered the university of mississippi in 1962. >> and what's your role? >> i was the first assistant in the civil rights division at that time. i was asked to accompany james meredith when he entered the university. >> what was the significance of him entering the university of mississippi? >> well,