if we're shrinking the force by the side we are in reaction of the fact that iraq is dpoen, afghanistan sf winding down. we're moving two bring grades out of europe. we're going to be moving things around. logically, there's no way we can do that without some doing some closures and realignments. i don't see where it's possible. i certainly have a large number of bases in my state and various degrees of vulnerability and i understand that, but it has to be done as far as i can see. i'll give you a minute or two to give you a pitch as to why we need to be more open into what in my mind is an absolutely necessary step. >> as we make reductions that will take place in some of the drawdowns in the wars we're engaged in. we're going to have units coming back that will be drawn down. that means that the force that we maintain will needless infrastructure to support it. that's just a reality. how do you make a decision as to what parts of that infrastructure ought to be reduced or changed or eliminated. that's been -- frankly, that's been a challenge, as long as i've been in this town. to try