dr. richard jackson. i am honored to have you on the program. thank you for the work you are doing, and all the best to you. that is our show for tonight. thanks for watching. until next time, keep the faith. >> we have an opportunity to do it right, so people will have more active lives, because it is easier and healthier. it is more fun. that is where we need to be next, wherever that is. we will not know it until we discover it. we learn by trial and error, not because you who study the answer and carry it out. you have to live the answer and see what works and what does not. our goal is not to do this again 10 times, but to figure out what is next. i think the next generation will have the same urban principles about walkability, but smarter, greener, more humane, may be breaking out of the current traps where we categorize things as this is urban and this is not. >> for more information on today's show, a visit tavis smiley at pbs.org. tavis: michael hastings on his explosive new text "the operators," next time. >> every community has a mar