.@@@@@ escÓ ditoridijo vivo con mis tÍos pero es cuando llego a la casa puntouns que ay @@al pununivnco no sabÍa de dÓnde venÍa esa agua y fue difÍcil. >> estuviste viviendo en nueva york con tus padres @@al punto ren@@@@al pun >> porque debido a la situaciÓno univisionestÁ @@@@al puntounivÍ@ @@al puntounivision@@@@al puntoa por dooras rectando traba seis dÍas ivisio y le pagaban muy poco. la @@@@an otra razÓn fu@@on altoque ir a cuidar a mi hermano a mÉxico porque mis abuelos fallecieron.@ >> ellos por presioivisio econÓmicas y personales se van de nueva york a mÉxico. @@@@al york o regresar con uno de sus hijos en mÉxico? >> fue dura la decisiÓn, separarse es muy difÍcil. pero ni modo, @@@@al puntounivÁ estÁ más grande quien tiene mÁs la situaciÓn. >> hace poco tomaron esta decisiÓn, un mes aproximadamente que no veÍan a antonio, ¿quÉ esperan de él?@ paÍs, que le eche ganas porque estÁ dura la situaciÓn en mÉxico, quga adelante, que progrese. ahorita tienen la oportunidad de estar allÁ. >> tu consejo para tu hijo es que se quede en los estados unidos o que regrese a mÉxico? >> cuando

sometimes an esco gets involved in all this. but some part of the financing can be this p.a.c.e., which puts a building gets sold, that property tax continues. and again, what i'm trying to do is just find financing models for this. on residential p.a.c.e., putting a property tax on doing retrofit, to finance retrofit, the fhfa will not give mortgages to a resident -- residential -- to a home with p.a.c.e. because p.a.c.e. would get paid back before the mortgage do. you think that's a wise policy by fhfa, and is there anything you can do? i've written them a letter. would you join my letter or would you -- >> well, i've been talking to shawn about this. and he and i are trying to be supportive as possible. i think the issue was even the lenders don't want to even be -- let's say you have loaned 200,000 to buy a home, and the homeowner wants another $10,000 for home energy improvements. and to be -- to have equal footing in the payback. the lenders are fighting back and say no, we don't want to do that. that has to be -- the p.a.

we look at esco, natural gas producer. they essentially downgrade the debt.e writedowns in terms of the value of the natural gas assets that all of these companies are holding and what you anticipate there. >> well, that's a great question because the energy industry is very capital intensive. access to capital and the cost of that capital becomes very important. what we're really going to have to go through -- we're in the early innings of a process where any company that has a bunch of dry gas reserves on their balance sheets, you have to determine what they're really worth. you brought up the case of exco that's relevant as a result of the downgrade last night. the issue becomes, it's the majority of their assets are -- in a world of the sound bite here, the question ultimately becomes, what is the intirinsic value of that. it's sort of two different worlds. it's the credit side versus the equity side in the case of exco. but it isn't unique to exco. but their 2018 paper is trading at # 8 88 or 89 cents. >> a lot more pain to come. investors would know you